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[Bruce Wayne]

... as did large numbers of prominent Remain backers, including almost all those who subsequently attacked Corbyn for losing that referendum.

Jeremy Corbyn: “wholesale” EU immigration has destroyed conditions for British workers

The Labour leader has told Andrew Marr that his party wants to leave the single market.

www.newstatesman.com

He, and people like Tony Benn, have used this argument against migrants for decades.

 

[SteveSC]

Now you are getting close. He doesn’t understand the relationship between Ireland and the U.K. Indeed we all see it through different eyes and experiences......

This is plain stupid.

He would have received the same education as the rest of the Irish men and women of his age and he grew up during a time when the troubles still existed up north.

Heritage has nothing to do with it, just like when you say you understand Ireland because of your heritage here yet you seem clueless on certain Irish issues and history as highlighted by some of your posts here and in the other thread.

If you did know anything about Ireland and its education you would know what our history books look like and what we are told in schools.

The area he grew up in also would be considered an area known to have a working class people especially when he was a kid living there.

Pretty sure him being born and raised in Ireland pretty much all of his life gives him a better understanding than you.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Because I am older and don’t have fewer qualifications yet still voted Leave.....

Yes, and I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but, statistically the likelihood of someone voting leave was greater among older people who have fewer formal qualifications.

For example, I could vote Remain as a relatively young white man in the North of England, while the highest likelihood of remain voter could be a black woman in London.

I can't break it down more simply than that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Because I am older and don’t have fewer qualifications yet still voted Leave.....

Yet despite these ample qualifications, you've struggled before with the notion that you don't represent the leave vote. As Joe regularly reminds us, there were 17.4 million of them, and your background is not representative of the majority of them.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I very much doubt it........

Do you think he might have a better grasp than Karen Bradley?

Karen Bradley admits ignorance of Northern Ireland politics

The Northern Ireland secretary says she was ‘slightly scared’ of the region before taking office

www.theguardian.com

 

[peteblue]

This is plain stupid.

He would have received the same education as the rest of the Irish men and women of his age and he grew up during a time when the troubles still existed up north.

Heritage has nothing to do with it, just like when you say you understand Ireland because of your heritage here yet you seem clueless on certain Irish issues and history as highlighted by some of your posts here and in the other thread.

If you did know anything about Ireland and its education you would know what our history books look like and what we are told in schools.

The area he grew up in also would be considered an area known to have a working class people especially when he was a kid living there.

Pretty sure him being born and raised in Ireland pretty much all of his life gives him a better understanding than you.

Varadkar is 40 years old. He knows nothing of the troubles. He was barely 20 when the GFA was signed and it was pretty well over......

 

[peteblue]

Yet despite these ample qualifications, you've struggled before with the notion that you don't represent the leave vote. As Joe regularly reminds us, there were 17.4 million of them, and your background is not representative of the majority of them.

And you struggle with my comment that I don’t represent the Leave vote. I represent me, but there are millions of me’s out there who all voted for a reason.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Varadkar is 40 years old. He knows nothing of the troubles. He was barely 20 when the GFA was signed and it wa pretty well over......

If only there were things like books

 

[Jebus_lives]

And you struggle with my comment that I don’t represent the Leave vote. I represent me, but there are millions of me’s out there who all voted for a reason.....

Yes, but statistically, they were more likely to vote the second way as you if they were older and with fewer qualifications.

This is not a difficult concept, nobody is trying to trick you here, just a simple accounting of factual information.

 

[tsubaki]

Jeremy Corbyn: “wholesale” EU immigration has destroyed conditions for British workers

The Labour leader has told Andrew Marr that his party wants to leave the single market.

www.newstatesman.com

He, and people like Tony Benn, have used this argument against migrants for decades.

His argument was not against migrants, it was against the collapse in job security, housing availability and whatnot.

Jeremy Corbyn says EU free movement means no immigration limit

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn says there can be no upper limit on the number of people coming into the UK while there is free movement of labour.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SteveSC]

Varadkar is 40 years old. He knows nothing of the troubles. He was barely 20 when the GFA was signed and it was pretty well over......

Ah here come off it now.

Seriously?

Once again he grew up in a country that would have educated him in the countries own history. He lived through a time where he could easily have watched the news and or been told by friends and educators.

This is the stupidest thing you have ever said by a long mile.

 

[SteveSC]

If only there were things like books

If only there were ways to learn if you didn't live through something haha! Mad isn't it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Ah here come off it now.

Seriously?

Once again he grew up in a country that would have educated him in the countries own history. He lived through a time where he could easily have watched the news and or been told by friends and educators.

This is the stupidest thing you have ever said by a long mile.

That's a bold claim among some of the stuff he's said in here.

 

[Jebus_lives]

If only there were ways to learn if you didn't live through something haha! Mad isn't it.

I'd be interested in his take on the first world war or the empire

 

[SteveSC]

I'd be interested in his take on the first world war or the empire

Indeed

That's a bold claim among some of the stuff he's said in here.

With that statement he has pretty much told us that anyone 40 and under who grew up in NI and Ireland and well Britain, that they are clueless when it comes to history because they didn't live through it.

Pretty fecking stupid if its not the worst it's right up there.

Watch though he will call me stupid now.