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[peteblue]

... as did large numbers of prominent Remain backers, including almost all those who subsequently attacked Corbyn for losing that referendum.

Corbyn didn’t lose the referendum, I believe he got exactly what he wanted.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Statistically? And the defining points for 'better educated' were these university degrees, bar exams as opposed to NVQs and apprenticeships? Because once you start getting into statistical 'qualifications' then it becomes patronising, class ridden and offensive.
The 'intelligentsia' by those definitions have been running the shores for centuries and guess who put us into this mess?

Regardless of who has been 'running the shores', you can evidence that those who are better educated favoured remain.

It follows that older people, with fewer formalised qualifications or education were more likely to vote Leave.

 

[Jebus_lives]

You see, I try and debate issues. I try and put across thoughts, even those that may be different to yours.you have added nothing except attempting to play some form of race card. Fine, if that’s all you’ve got, but we do try to add something extra in here......

I didn't play any card. You offered the statement. I am simply using your own logic against it.

 

[peteblue]

I didn't play any card. You offered the statement. I am simply using your own logic against it.

If you used my logic you would understand. But you don’t, so you didn’t......

 

[Jebus_lives]

If you used my logic you would understand. But you don’t, so you didn’t......

Ok I'll try again. How does Varadkar's name mean he doesn't talk on behalf of Ireland, yet your Irish surname entitles you to talk on behalf of Britain?

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Because I assume your Irish heritage goes back more than one generation. Varadkar while being born in Ireland is of Indian background and spent many years thereafter there. Many Indians still have a hang up about the British Raj, as Obama did about Kenya. It happens. This is not racist, this is a belonging to a certain background or wish. It’s like Irish American politicians supporting the IRA. It’s emotive but not necessarily constructive.....

Right.

You think his heritage and family experience of the British Empire may mean he is unduly biased and therefore Ireland should treat with caution.

I’m flummoxed how to respond to this to be honest. We shouldn’t trust our Taoiseach because he has a kob on because of what England did in India.

It’s like it just never happened Pete.

 

[tsubaki]

Because I assume your Irish heritage goes back more than one generation. Varadkar while being born in Ireland is of Indian background and spent many years thereafter there. Many Indians still have a hang up about the British Raj, as Obama did about Kenya. It happens. This is not racist, this is a belonging to a certain background or wish. It’s like Irish American politicians supporting the IRA. It’s emotive but not necessarily constructive.....

Pete you are talking absolute wham here. For a start, he is half Indian (his mum is Irish) and his dad comes from what was Bombay (ie: the oldest part of what became the Raj, and the least affected by the idiocy that lost the Raj).

Secondly you are claiming that "many Indians have a hang up about the British Raj"; what they had a hang up about was the racism and hypocrisy that was a feature of British rule post 1857 and when it was removed (after Independence) large numbers of them made their homes here, including his dad. These are not people who have it in for the British (and for what its worth the same applies for the Pakistani community as well).

 

[peteblue]

Regardless of who has been 'running the shores', you can evidence that those who are better educated favoured remain.

It follows that older people, with fewer formalised qualifications or education were more likely to vote Leave.

I am older, I have quite a few formalised qualifications, probably more than yourself, I voted Leave because I am not frightened of breaking up the status quo. You and other Remainers are terrified of the ‘unknown’. Us older people have seen the unknown and are not quite as scared as you evidently are.......

 

[Jebus_lives]

Right.

You think his heritage and family experience of the British Empire may mean he is unduly biased and therefore Ireland should treat with caution.

I’m flummoxed how to respond to this to be honest. We shouldn’t trust our Taoiseach because he has a kob on because of what England did in India.

It’s like it just never happened Pete.

You'd understand if you were Pete.

 

[peteblue]

Right.

You think his heritage and family experience of the British Empire may mean he is unduly biased and therefore Ireland should treat with caution.

I’m flummoxed how to respond to this to be honest. We shouldn’t trust our Taoiseach because he has a kob on because of what England did in India.

It’s like it just never happened Pete.

Now you are getting close. He doesn’t understand the relationship between Ireland and the U.K. Indeed we all see it through different eyes and experiences......

 

[Jebus_lives]

I am older, I have quite a few formalised qualifications, probably more than yourself, I voted Leave because I am not frightened of breaking up the status quo. You and other Remainers are terrified of the ‘unknown’. Us older people have seen the unknown and are not quite as scared as you evidently are.......

How does any of what you said contradict the fact that if you are older and have fewer qualifications, you were more likely to vote Leave?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Now you are getting close. He doesn’t understand the relationship between Ireland and the U.K. Indeed we all see it through different eyes and experiences......

Because he has an Indian surname. lollollol

 

[Jebus_lives]

Now you are getting close. He doesn’t understand the relationship between Ireland and the U.K. Indeed we all see it through different eyes and experiences......

I bet he understands it better than most Leave voters.

 

[peteblue]

How does any of what you said contradict the fact that if you are older and have fewer qualifications, you were more likely to vote Leave?

Because I am older and don’t have fewer qualifications yet still voted Leave.....

 

[peteblue]

I bet he understands it better than most Leave voters.

I very much doubt it........