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Just throwing this out here. I don't claim to know if any of this is correct or not. I would welcome comments from those who may be able to correct this information that I found in t'internet. I repeat: I am not posting this to be attacked or criticised, I just want informed factual views on it.

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT COMES INTO FORCE 2020, ITS WORSE THAN THE SO CALLED DEAL, IF 99% OF THE BRITISH THINK THIS THE DEAL IS BAD JUST LOOK AT THE LISBON TREATY. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, LEAVERS AND REMAINERS..“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer but here it is warts and all.
Check it out if you wish ——>>
1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020
 
A post on a Facebook page. I'll try to find it again.

I just want to know whether it's a load of squit, or if there is any substance to it...

My limited knowledge of the Lisbon Treaty is that it was chiefly a tidying up exercise.

But looking at the list on the post, several of them have been the case for years, (trade deals etc), the adoption of the EU is nonsense, as were most in the bottom 10.

Like I said, imo, its someones interpretation, dressed up as fact. And the fact that some of the stuff is supposed to happen next year, dont you think that may have been raised in the Leave campaign?
 
My limited knowledge of the Lisbon Treaty is that it was chiefly a tidying up exercise.

But looking at the list on the post, several of them have been the case for years, (trade deals etc), the adoption of the EU is nonsense, as were most in the bottom 10.

Like I said, imo, its someones interpretation, dressed up as fact. And the fact that some of the stuff is supposed to happen next year, dont you think that may have been raised in the Leave campaign?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...-Britains-powers-surrendered-to-Brussels.html
 
Thanks Joe.

Could you show me where it will force the Euro on us, and obliterate the House of Commons.
lol the point of that article was complaining the British people should have had a vote on it ..... they imo did in 2016, and now its crisis as project fear kicks in.......
the HOC are trying to amend a bill that in its precedence this week caused a civil war in history.........
by taking the power of the elected government.........
 
lol the point of that article was complaining the British people should have had a vote on it ..... they imo did in 2016, and now its crisis as project fear kicks in.......
the HOC are trying to amend a bill that in its precedence this week caused a civil war in history.........
by taking the power of the elected government.........

Was it? Soz, I assumed you were carrying on from the post that @Old Blue 2 asked about.
 
I did not suggest any of that it's a typical politicians answer from you never a straight answer just a monologue of a quotes of scenarios as I stated I will stay off the EU thread I have never reported many people on the GOT, and most certainly not you, but I reiterate you as a Moderator set a standard .......
Ahem
 
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