Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I’ll just chalk this down as another example of when i’ve asked someone for a good reason for us leaving the EU and they haven’t been able or willing to do so. Quell surprise!

You can if you want, it's your opinion after all. Just a thought but you might find that your needlessly arsey responses play a part in way people are unwilling to talk and engage properly. It gets tedious very quickly.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

https://news.sky.com/story/we-would...-to-remain-in-eu-11610536?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

A group of prominent Germans has written a letter urging Britain to rethink Brexit - "After the horrors of the Second World War, Britain did not give up on us. It has welcomed Germany back as a sovereign nation and a European power. This we, as Germans, have not forgotten and we are grateful."

 

[tim cahill]

You can if you want, it's your opinion after all. Just a thought but you might find that your needlessly arsey responses play a part in way people are unwilling to talk and engage properly. It gets tedious very quickly.

So does being told how great Brexit is by people that aren’t willing to explain why.

I wasn’t deliberately arsey, but sometimes it’s hard to completely suppress anger and frustration at a situation that is needlessly damaging our country, our prospects and the prospects of generations to come.

 

[davids]

But she is legitimately terrible. You can talk anti-Labour bias and so on, but it doesn't take away the fact she's just awful.

She nearly on her own could guarantee that there will be no Labour Govt,even after this car crash of a Brexit is concluded.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Chapeau to that lady.

 

[davids]

Of course it should surprise no one that that QT audience appeared to contain a large number of Leave voters, or that (according to reports) both Fiona Bruce and the BBC floor manager made jokes at Abbott’s expense during the warm up or even that one of the fellow panellists was a journalist that put one source in prison, who went around circulating a fib (an amusing fib nonetheless) about the then PM with no proof whatsoever and who sat on actual proof of wrongdoing by Leave during the referendum, so should be no more likely than a can of Fray Bentos to find herself on the BBC’s premier debate show.

That Abbott though, what a disgrace, have you seen what she said about white people, she only got that job etc etc

The race card can be played as often as possible,but it doesn't hide the fact that she is as a politician,inept.The Tory party have Boris,Labour have her.

 

[Ruairi77]

This is from 2016!

 

[davids]

If there is a second referendum it’s going to be fun watching the debate on what the questions will be on the ballot paper, whether the questions are decided upon by an impartial panel or not.

Should be three straight forward questions,May's deal.No deal.Stay. But knowing the idiots in Westminster it'll be 20+ multiple choice questions that have been outsourced to a US company to come up with at a cost of tens of millions.

 

[Joey66]

Who, lest we forget, was voted for by both her own party and then by the country.

Labour and the conservatives were both voted in with 80 percent of the electorate on manefestoes of leaving the EU in the last GE - the Remain parties did woefully in that GE standing on the Remain stance i.e. Staying in the EU!

 

[edge]

What valid reasons? I’m yet to hear any that make this mess worthwhile. The ones i’ve heard are all based on fear mongering.

Look up posted workers directive.
Corbyn gave a speech on it this week
The re flagging of ships to Malta and its effect on the labour market, if you from Liverpool look up the company that runs the ferry to Ireland for reference to how that works in practice.
The treatment of the working class on Greece, Spain ect
There are many reasons , but as you have said you haven't heard any there are a few
I don't like.
None on there own that maybe worth leaving over, but part of bigger picture to myself
It really wouldn't matter how many I put down as we have different views , but thought it good manners to reply as it seemed be frustrating you.
Look up the Laval and rufferd rulings from the EU courts might be spelled wrong as I am dyslexic.but Google will get you there.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Should be three straight forward questions,May's deal.No deal.Stay. But knowing the idiots in Westminster it'll be 20+ multiple choice questions that have been outsourced to a US company to come up with at a cost of tens of millions.

lol

Then 2 more years of MPs debating the questions in the commons mate!

 

[Joey66]

Should be three straight forward questions,May's deal.No deal.Stay. But knowing the idiots in Westminster it'll be 20+ multiple choice questions that have been outsourced to a US company to come up with at a cost of tens of millions.

Rediculous Mays deal was voted out by our MPs on the ballot paper it should read -
Leave with a deal
or leave on WTO rules .....
That's as biased as your suggestion........

 

[Joey66]

https://news.sky.com/story/we-would...-to-remain-in-eu-11610536?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

A group of prominent Germans has written a letter urging Britain to rethink Brexit - "After the horrors of the Second World War, Britain did not give up on us. It has welcomed Germany back as a sovereign nation and a European power. This we, as Germans, have not forgotten and we are grateful."

That's how desperate they are in between the lines they will miss our massive contributions.....

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

So does being told how great Brexit is by people that aren’t willing to explain why.

I wasn’t deliberately arsey, but sometimes it’s hard to completely suppress anger and frustration at a situation that is needlessly damaging our country, our prospects and the prospects of generations to come.

With all due respect, that's not how this conversation began, I think you'll find that I've not once said that Brexit would be great at any point during our discussion. Our conversation began with us effectively agreeing that violence was unlikely and at no stage have I said Brexit would be great during this talk. I dont believe Brexit will be great because I don't believe it will even take place at this point.

I had my reasons for voting as I did but they're irrelevant at this stage as the vote took place over two and a half years ago. I just see no point in us having the same conversation that I've had repeatedly since then when at best it will only end with us agreeing to differ.

I did have high hopes for Brexit at one point admittedly but they died within days of the result. This country is in a far worse state then I ever imagined it to be even in my worst nightmares, and sadly I see no end to it regardless of Brexit going through or not. Ignore Brexit, hold a second vote, do what you want but this country is utterly doomed while we have such charlatans from all parties running this country. I'd recommend that anyone who is able to should leave this country and asap because things are only going to get worse regardless of how Brexit turns out.

There's no end in sight here. Even if I could undo the last four years, this country would still be doomed to ruin with such charlatan running it. There's literally nobody in either house in any of the parties other then maybe one or two people who honestly cares about this country or has it's best interests at heart.

 

[edge]

It was the ECJ rulings on two cases
Laval and Ruffert I was referring to in earlier post as why I am against them