Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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larrygobfiend said:
Problem is, if there was a people's vote and remain won, there would be riots on the streets.
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That's what we have a police and army for.

Protest is fine (both sides have done it non-stop for three years now after all), but if they riot? Screw 'em.

We can't let fear of bells dictate democracy and making the best decisions for the welfare of the country.
 
Tubey said:
That's what we have a police and army for.

Protest is fine (both sides have done it non-stop for three years now after all), but if they riot? Screw 'em.

We can't let fear of bells dictate democracy and making the best decisions for the welfare of the country.
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The amount of hang em & flog em law and order types who seem to be advocating civil disobedience on previously unseen scale is pretty staggering .
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Which if any evidence were required should illustrate why the public should not be trusted with any important decision ever again. If the last two years have not been enough to shift opinion then I really do question the mental faculty of people.
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To be honest Bruce some people vote a certain way just because they have a feeling one way or the other
Not just in the case but most of the votes, how many times have you heard I just don't like/trust him/her ask them why just say because i don't like the look of them or something.
I have had it in work people voting on union stuff ,just blindly ticking a box because the union wants them to, one restructure meant 44 extra days in work , a six day week , and flat pay with a rise in your basic pay, I told everyone it was a con, then when it came in they all realised what they had signed up to, I left , doing the same job old conditions and at least £6000 better off a year, you really shouldn't be surprised at what people will vote for.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Which if any evidence were required should illustrate why the public should not be trusted with any important decision ever again. If the last two years have not been enough to shift opinion then I really do question the mental faculty of people.
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I agree with this sentiment 100%.

Problem is I don’t trust that shower at Westminster to make important decisions affecting the future of me, my family and my country either.

I genuinely despair for the future of our political decision making process.
 
edge said:
To be honest Bruce some people vote a certain way just because they have a feeling one way or the other
Not just in the case but most of the votes, how many times have you heard I just don't like/trust him/her ask them why just say because i don't like the look of them or something.
I have had it in work people voting on union stuff ,just blindly ticking a box because the union wants them to, one restructure meant 44 extra days in work , a six day week , and flat pay with a rise in your basic pay, I told everyone it was a con, then when it came in they all realised what they had signed up to, I left , doing the same job old conditions and at least £6000 better off a year, you really shouldn't be surprised at what people will vote for.
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I’m not and wasn’t surprised as to how people voted 2.5 years ago. How could anyone after a generation of media stories about E.U. regulation (true or not) and a government that were more than happy to lay the result of austerity economics at the foot of the E.U? During the referendum it was almost impossible to any kind of balanced view. The remain campaign was also terrible, seemingly offering no actual positives to potential voters.

What I find utterly bizarre though is people’s behavior now. Obviously there were lots of leave voters who couldn’t wait for the ref as had hated the E.U. for years and will stick to that view forever (which is fair enough). However a awful lot (the majority?) of leave voters at the time said that it was tough decision that they had to ‘wrestle with’ and ‘go back and forth on’ (including a certain Boris Johnson). If it was such a tough decision that one wasn’t 100% on, or as you say based on a vague feeling, how with all the extra knowledge that we have now on what it actually entails, plus the ineptitude of the government tasked with undertaking it, is it not really easy to say - ‘that was the wrong call’.

10 years ago the relationship between the U.K. and the E.U. wasn’t in most people’s top 5 political issues with the country. It was a fringe issue that UKIP and the 15% of the population who have always hated the E.U. have managed to drag to being at the centre of all U.K. government policy for the last 3 years and the next 10.

A fringe issue that a load of the people who voted for weren’t 100% on which way to vote, who are now saying that they will march on the streets, that ‘democracy is dead’ if they don’t get the Brexit they ‘deserve’.

It’s insane.
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
Hang on a minute, I thought leave voters all were pretty much doddering old people yet you're afraid of them causing riots on the streets? It can't be both.
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Exactly.

Talk of “riots on the street” are desperate threats from Brexiteers who know your average Brexiteer has never been inclined to riot and those who who would have been in their youth would not get a pass out from the nursing home to do so now.
 
Khalekan said:
Exactly.

Talk of “riots on the street” are desperate threats from Brexiteers who know your average Brexiteer has never been inclined to riot and those who who would have been in their youth would not get a pass out from the nursing home to do so now.
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I've yet to hear a single leave voter say that they'd riot or endorse riots if the vote was overturned. The most forceful thing I've heard from people is that they'd never vote again as their vote is worthless, hardly an uprising is it? Seems to me that this talk of violence on the streets is yet another nasty way for some people to paint their fellow citizens who happen to of voted leave in a negitive light.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Which if any evidence were required should illustrate why the public should not be trusted with any important decision ever again. If the last two years have not been enough to shift opinion then I really do question the mental faculty of people.
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why because the EU is a poor worthless organisation Bruce - going to set up its own army.......
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
I've yet to hear a single leave voter say that they'd riot or endorse riots if the vote was overturned. The most forceful thing I've heard from people is that they'd never vote again as their vote is worthless, hardly an uprising is it? Seems to me that this talk of violence on the streets is yet another nasty way for some people to paint their fellow citizens who happen to of voted leave in a negitive light.
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It’s the likes of Farage that keep implying it.
Can’t see much kicking off personally. Not if the the will of the people has changed.
 
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