Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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vince cable on tv said he thinks corbyn is sitting back wanting a no deal , because the ensuing chaos would make it easy for him to win an election, now that its the calibre of man involved in this dont be suprised whatever happens from now on.
The MPs in the labour party wouldn’t allow that even if Corbyn wanted it to happen. He’s come out and said many times that no deal cannot be allowed to happen. Vince Cable is just saying that because he’s desperate to make his party relevant again.
 
Still think the best way around this is to halt the leaving date and then try and agree a rolling membership with the EU. The UK's official position would be that the intention to leave the EU still stands and it will be reviewed every 5 or so years to see if the circumstances and conditions have changed to allow it to happen. This would include the DUP/any other nationalist party not propping up the government, whether Scotland or Ireland still remain in the United Kingdom and is there new technology available to keep the border open that pleases everyone. If they get an answer that allows brexit they can then issue a withdrawal notice at that point. Say if 2 decades have passed then they could validly hold another referendum just to make sure it is still the will of the people.

I believe that this course of action is best as it stops the chaos that is happening right now in government, allowing them to get on with other important issues facing us. The leavers should not feel betrayed that their vote was unheard the first time as it is still the policy of the UK to leave, it saves more anger of having a second referendum. I know they will be unhappy they aren't leaving straightaway but they frankly do not understand the mess a no deal brexit will cause, years of poverty, the costly break up of not just us and the EU but also the break up of the UK. Investors are not going to come back until all the uncertainty has ended and all the while the businesses on the continent would have grown to take in all the work that we do now that gets exported (like the Toyota factory etc.), money makes money and we will be left behind and may never recover.
 
Imagine I come to you and say ‘Hey, I’m going to pay for you to go overseas or you can stay here.’ You jump at the chance and say ‘yes please send me overseas.’ I come back a few days and mention that you’re going to Syria. Are you still going to take that trip?

It’s the same for this, I for the life of me cannot understand why it’s inconceivable that now we have the full facts why it’s beyond the realms of possibilities for people to change their mind.

The only people that are arguing other wise are Leavers or drinking far too much political kool-aid. If people won’t vote after this, good.

After it being a 50/ 50 split for the majority of the time, according to the polls now, they say there has been a slight shift to remain mate, but not enough to make any difference.
 
After it being a 50/ 50 split for the majority of the time, according to the polls now, they say there has been a slight shift to remain mate, but not enough to make any difference.

Which if any evidence were required should illustrate why the public should not be trusted with any important decision ever again. If the last two years have not been enough to shift opinion then I really do question the mental faculty of people.
 
After it being a 50/ 50 split for the majority of the time, according to the polls now, they say there has been a slight shift to remain mate, but not enough to make any difference.

But it's not a vote on the same question now. It's not asking if you want to do something, it's asking how - and at the same time checking to see if minds have been changed.

Brexit thus far has been an invitation to treat - you expressed an interest in it but you haven't yet bought it. Just like in any shop, if you pick an item up to look at it, you have every right to put it back if you decide it's not to your tastes - picking up the item doesn't finalise the contract.
 
Which if any evidence were required should illustrate why the public should not be trusted with any important decision ever again. If the last two years have not been enough to shift opinion then I really do question the mental faculty of people.

10 cursory minutes of reading this thread backs this up pretty convincingly.
 
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