Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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efcoriginals said:
Deliberately lying, perhaps not. We shouldn't pretend though that the Bank of England, and Mark Carney in particular, do not have outside interests and are truly apolitical.
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OnlyBlueWillDo said:
The Bank of England has been wrong before with their projected forecasts as you damn well know, massive project fear campaign on the remain side.
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I'm not talking about being right or wrong. That isn't the debate, it's whether people were deliberately lying. Whenever the leave campaign are accused of that, the standard retort is that 'both sides did it'. That's not true, and there's a huge difference between saying with the best thinking available to you, but then being wrong, and saying something you know full well is wrong.
 
peteblue said:
Have you even seen the title of some of the threads on here (Scummy Tories). Just try uttering the name of Margaret Thatcher and then you will see real abuse. Soubry is an obnoxious self important cow, and always has been. But just because she is an avid Remainer, all the Remainers on here are jumping to her defence and acting holier than thou.....
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It was harsh - but no harder when the remainers outside hurling abuse at Mp Brexiteers on the green with the EU flags flashing behind them JRM stated it was OK he could take the taunts - imo She had it coming, as anyway I remember the day after the result - quote we now have to listen to the voters her own constituency had voted out .......
the abuse was well OTT but she has made herself a target by banging on against her constituents wishes any MP will feel this in the ballot box if they don't deliver any sort of Brexit imo.......
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I'm not talking about being right or wrong. That isn't the debate, it's whether people were deliberately lying. Whenever the leave campaign are accused of that, the standard retort is that 'both sides did it'. That's not true, and there's a huge difference between saying with the best thinking available to you, but then being wrong, and saying something you know full well is wrong.
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So Alan johnson saying two thirds of manufacturing jobs rely on the EU wasn't a lie?
it would cost each family each family £4.500 a year, an emergency budget would be needed if we voted out.mass unemployment.
David Cameron speech about white headstones and world war 3 if we voted out.
Universities would lose out from EU funding that wouldn't be replaced, funny enough Hammond has just done just that.
there were more but its pointless going on about them as it has now history. leave won remain lost, nothing will change that.

Both sides did lie its just a fact, neither side can get away from
 
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Joey66 said:
It was harsh - but no harder when the remainers outside hurling abuse at Mp Brexiteers on the green with the EU flags flashing behind them JRM stated it was OK he could take the taunts - imo She had it coming, as anyway I remember the day after the result - quote we now have to listen to the voters her own constituency had voted out .......
the abuse was well OTT but she has made herself a target by banging on against her constituents wishes any MP will feel this in the ballot box if they don't deliver any sort of Brexit imo.......
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So any mp whose constituents voted remain but wants to leave should be screamed and called a nazi , a traitor or a cow ? So I presume you think Kate hoey has it coming ?

I’ve said before it’s not a world I like or feel comfortable in , im generally ok with actual nazi’s being confronted but some of these people shouting nazi seem to actually be happy marching next to them , the place is upside down .
 
edge said:
sad whatever there views are, that they are being heckled by extremists.
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You won’t get an argument from me on that , actual Nazi’s i can find an argument to confront them but politicians arguing their position be that for leave or remain shouldn’t be subject to stuff like that . In my opinion . It’s also perhaps my upbringing and I accept incredibly old fashioned but surrounding and harranguing a woman isn’t on either . I’m not massively comfortable with calling one a cow because we have different political ideals personally but I know we’re all different .
 
Harryflashman said:
So any mp whose constituents voted remain but wants to leave should be screamed and called a nazi , a traitor or a cow ? So I presume you think Kate hoey has it coming ?

I’ve said before it’s not a world I like or feel comfortable in , im generally ok with actual nazi’s being confronted but some of these people shouting nazi seem to actually be happy marching next to them , the place is upside down .
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Hold on Nigel Farage and his family and JRM and his children have suffered worse abuse in the past - just because of they are Brexiteers its ok with you but not when it happens to a backstabbing tory remainer......
 
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