Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Hold on Nigel Farage and his family and JRM and his children have suffered worse abuse in the past - just because of they are Brexiteers its ok with you but not when it happens to a backstabbing tory remainer......

No they haven’t, and stop using Nazi tropes.
 
So Alan johnson saying two thirds of manufacturing jobs rely on the EU wasn't a lie?
it would cost each family each family £4.500 a year, an emergency budget would be needed if we voted out.mass unemployment.
David Cameron speech about white headstones and world war 3 if we voted out.
Universities would lose out from EU funding that wouldn't be replaced, funny enough Hammond has just done just that.
there were more but its pointless going on about them as it has now history. leave won remain lost, nothing will change that.

Both sides did lie its just a fact, neither side can get away from

I don't recall the Alan Johnson comment, but the emergency budget statement was made should we leave with no deal the day after the vote. Isn't it a coincidence that those figures are pretty similar to those produced now to project how a no deal Brexit would impact the country? Hammond has said as much a few months ago. The forecasts are produced by the Office for Budget Responsibility, who are non-departmental and independent. Their very job is to provide budget forecasts. So that's not a lie, that's a projection made by a body the government created specifically to make such projections!

Regarding Cameron and 'World War 3', I'm afraid that is itself a lie propagated by Boris Johnson. This is the actual speech you refer to - https://www.gov.uk/government/speec...ks-strength-and-security-in-the-eu-9-may-2016. You'll notice no mention of world war 3.

"Can we be so sure that peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking?

I would never be so rash as to make that assumption."

That is the exact quote that Boris lied about. At the time, I think it's a fair comment to make. Peace in Europe is always fragile, and many unsavoury sorts were banging the drum for Brexit. The vote to leave was quickly followed by Trump's election, and France were within a whisker of electing Le Pen. We've already seen far right leaders elected in Austria, Poland, Hungary and Czech, and so a political decision in Britain that was led in large part by those on the far right could scarcely be seen as supporting peace and goodwill in Europe, can it? And that's before we even get onto the Irish border.

Regarding universities, it's taken two years to get any kind of direction from the government, so how is it lying if they say they currently get a lot of funding, involvement in collaborative research and free movement of research talent, and all of those things are put at risk by leaving the EU? For two years all of those things were still at risk, and until the ink is dry on a settlement, I would say all three still are.
 
Hold on Nigel Farage and his family and JRM and his children have suffered worse abuse in the past - just because of they are Brexiteers its ok with you but not when it happens to a backstabbing tory remainer......

Joe, given what has happened to MPs at the hands of far right nutters in this country, perhaps a better choice of phrase would be suitable. I know you probably didn't even think of Jo Cox, but still.
 
Joe, given what has happened to MPs at the hands of far right nutters in this country, perhaps a better choice of phrase would be suitable. I know you probably didn't even think of Jo Cox, but still.
It's the first that I know a remainer MP got abuse Bruce - top news yet when the brexiteers get it?.........
top news and what the hell as it got to do with Jo Cox - very tragic as it was it was before the referendum....
MPs get bodyguards Nigel Farage did not.... watch Politics live on the BBC today ok.....
 
They did to Farage he had to seek refuge in a pub behind doors for an hour with the chant of Nazi, fascist see politics live today - Soubry was smiling as she received the abuse , but it was like I stated OTT........

I said I don’t like it on either side if you need to re read my posts , you certainly can .i could type a bit about farage but I won’t and I’ll leave it at that .

Can’t you see like I said earlier this backstabbing stuff , you can’t be it’s good , it’s violent unhealthy language . Do you know how many times you’ve used words like traitor in this thread ? Do you think that’s good , an mp was murdered a couple a years ago over Brexit , this is the environment that’s been created and it’s perpetuated with language like this and I can’t in all honesty think it’s where we should be .
 
It's the first that I know a remainer MP got abuse Bruce - top news yet when the brexiteers get it?.........
top news and what the hell as it got to do with Jo Cox - very tragic as it was it was before the referendum....
MPs get bodyguards Nigel Farage did not.... watch Politics live on the BBC today ok.....

Did politics today say all mp’s get bodyguards? So the HOC has 650 mp’s they’ve all got bodyguards? They’ve got close Personal protection , sorry but absolutely no chance in my opinion .
 
I said I don’t like it on either side if you need to re read my posts , you certainly can .i could type a bit about farage but I won’t and I’ll leave it at that .

Can’t you see like I said earlier this backstabbing stuff , you can’t be it’s good , it’s violent unhealthy language . Do you know how many times you’ve used words like traitor in this thread ? Do you think that’s good , an mp was murdered a couple a years ago over Brexit , this is the environment that’s been created and it’s perpetuated with language like this and I can’t in all honesty think it’s where we should be .
It will get worse I am afraid if the MPS who promised to carry the vote out whichever way the democrocy went Cameron is on record of saying so......
Your last final chance it will be implemented TWO years later..........
 
Did politics today say all mp’s get bodyguards? So the HOC has 650 mp’s they’ve all got bodyguards? They’ve got close Personal protection , sorry but absolutely no chance in my opinion .
She did have protection look at the clips..... look I agree with you the demos are over the top on both sides, JRM wasa giving an interview on the green and a torrent of abuse came his way - he just stated to the interviewer it was free speech - I agree what happened yesterday was OTT and the police were there did nothing...... watch politics live today....
 
It's the first that I know a remainer MP got abuse Bruce - top news yet when the brexiteers get it?.........
top news and what the hell as it got to do with Jo Cox - very tragic as it was it was before the referendum....
MPs get bodyguards Nigel Farage did not.... watch Politics live on the BBC today ok.....

No they don't Joe ffs.
 
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