You need to query the facts trade on the island of Ireland goes ahead with differences now ....no need for a hard border only the EU has suggested a hard border,,..........
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That’ll happen on arrival from the republic but I got the impression when he mentioned ‘Northern Ireland’ he was talking about those travelling north then travelling and that won’t happen . Because there aren’t any UKBA staff checking arrivals from Belfast . We’ve discussed this at length also to be fair we’ll not a significantly more staff to deal with those arriving from the south because at the minute most flights from the south simply aren’t checked at all .
tsubaki
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You are a bit mixed up about how the CTA came into being, but please note the people who fall foul of it are the Brexiteers, not the EU and not anyone who wants freedom of movement to continue.
If your red line is control of migration from the EU, then you have to deal with the CTA (and as I’ve said previously, the difference in status between citizens of the Republic and the other 26 was and is the best way we could get a deal on that).
Not mixed up at all if we were to leave the EU the Irish national people of the whole of Ireland have the right to travel anywhere in the U.K. Been an act of Parliment since 1922......
It does boil down to trade in my opinion as opposed to freedom of movement, its the UK ability to negotiate trade deals or even abide by WTO rules as minimum without a hard border that's always been the issue.
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But mfn status and no border has a real potential to cause issues as well under WTO rules
tsubaki
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Joey, you are mixed up on this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Travel_Area details the history of the Common Travel Area.
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You can’t have one without the other though; an open border is by definition open to everything however much people talk about miraculous technological solutions.
Tell that to Senator George Mitchell, the man tasked with implementing the GFA.
He begs to differ.
And this has been pointed out to you, via links, by @Armaghtoffee and others.
But happen you know better, Joe.
There is no fact which cannot be bent to suit your increasingly threadbare arguments in favour of the Brexit madness.
orly
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What do you think would be easier to implement Joseph: no deal or the deal / implementation period / FEP?
Think very carefully, then type, then probably delete what you've written, go to bed, then retype.
Yep its the kernal of the difficulty really, in spirit im sure the UK want to honor the GFA, but its the implications for the Union as a whole on trade thats a conundrum.
Thats the dilema, if Ireland has an open Border with NI, then other WTO organisations can make a case to the WTO against the UK for prejudice and sanctions etc are a real risk.
Why are US fidget spinners open to rigours and customs when Irish ones arent etc.
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It is all immaterial anyway. The Withdrawal Treaty won't be renegotiated and the backstop won't be dropped.......(at the risk of sounding like someone I should have tagged)......end of.
Emlynsqueakyvoice
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In fairness, you are the most consistent poster on here Joe. You post nonsense every time.
Just look in your two mirrors , and you will find your answer......lol
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