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Great for May appointing a totally unknown Brexit secretary - he being told straight away he will play no part in the future negotiations.........:):)
what does he do carry her handbag, and suitcase.......

Domestic contingency planning Joseph. Very helpfully, it's been in the news all day.
 
Great for May appointing a totally unknown Brexit secretary - he being told straight away he will play no part in the future negotiations.........:):)
what does he do carry her handbag, and suitcase.......

Actually I think she’s made a mistake here. If she had persuaded Gove to do it, she could have let him loose, sat back and see what happened. She would not be blamed, and if he did a decent job she would have taken the credit. By appointing this guy, then again telling everyone she’s in charge, she has shown herself to be taking the mick, and thrown away any sympathy she may have had within the party ( they are idiots but not complete fools), and put herself back into the crosshairs.....
 
Actually I think she’s made a mistake here. If she had persuaded Gove to do it, she could have let him loose, sat back and see what happened. She would not be blamed, and if he did a decent job she would have taken the credit. By appointing this guy, then again telling everyone she’s in charge, she has shown herself to be taking the mick, and thrown away any sympathy she may have had within the party ( they are idiots but not complete fools), and put herself back into the crosshairs.....
Heard he on LBC this am same old rhetoric used before like a long playing record who does she think she is kidding........
 

all you had to do was put the 49 billion on the table with our demands and say if you don't come back with the correct answers the 49 billion will be not there - great poker strategy that.....
but no our remain civil servants balls it up in 2 years.......

Say we do not pay the divorce settlement if we head down a no deal road, do you think there would be no consequences if we do that? We signed up to pay x amount into the EU, there will be legal ramifications off the back of it. So our credit rating will likely drop as we are a country that doesn't keep to its obligations. We then likely pay more interest on the national debt, we probably would never be able to borrow money from European banks. We would face a whole continent that would have a valid reason for trying to financially ruin us and you can forget a nice free trade deal later on down the line.

Doesn't sound like a great deal to me.
 
Heard a good summing up on the draft deal which our civil servants signed by Michael Portillo on BBC this week last night he compared it with the French signing the deal in the railway carriage after the invasion of the Germans 2nd world war a total humiliation - in the same forest of the armistice signed after the first word war - only that over this Brexit deal was similar our civil servants were blindfolded he stated in was brexit in name only - he analyses quite well as he forecast Theresa May getting on the plane in the late hours to go to Brussels on the Irish backstop deal she signed would be her downfall way back then...
He still thinks she will be gone by her party soon....... comparisons of Thatcher being overthrown as that deal will never get voted through parliment .....
the draft the divorce bill cannot be altered as its to good of a deal payment , and content wise.... also the main way forwards is only 5 pages ... and the divorce is stronger, and much harder than signing article 50 .......


I'm not being funny but we wouldn't be in this mess if the older generation didn't keep harping on about the second world war all the time!
 
I'm not being funny but we wouldn't be in this mess if the older generation didn't keep harping on about the second world war all the time!
It was Michael Portillo,s analogy - did you not study history at School it was a subject, and still is as far as I know, you are supposed to learn from History, and not make similar mistakes - did you not read what he stated very relevant...
 
Say we do not pay the divorce settlement if we head down a no deal road, do you think there would be no consequences if we do that? We signed up to pay x amount into the EU, there will be legal ramifications off the back of it. So our credit rating will likely drop as we are a country that doesn't keep to its obligations. We then likely pay more interest on the national debt, we probably would never be able to borrow money from European banks. We would face a whole continent that would have a valid reason for trying to financially ruin us and you can forget a nice free trade deal later on down the line.

Doesn't sound like a great deal to me.
Let them sue us...
 
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