MikeEFC1878x
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Turn out was less than 40% for 18-24 pal. Don't buy that at all my Gran mother who is nearly 85 voted to remain via postal vote, I knew this because she asked my help, not voted in years you see..
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Turn out was less than 40% for 18-24 pal. Don't buy that at all my Gran mother who is nearly 85 voted to remain via postal vote, I knew this because she asked my help, not voted in years you see..
Eric Djemba-Djemba
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Racist little Englander.
Oh I know, it isn't universal - just spelling out the thought process.
And young people are largely liberal idiots who mouth off on Twitter then don't vote, we all know this.
MikeEFC1878x
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407
Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud
Interesting article here, we should move on as a country in my opinion instead of being petty, both sides level of debate was poor in all honesty.
Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud
Interesting article here, we should move on as a country in my opinion instead of being petty, both sides level of debate was poor in all honesty.
Librarian
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the only way you'd get my sister in law into a polling booth was if you told her 'poll' was a euphemism for rock-hard-flute and e'l'ection was just a typo
Johnson, Gove and Duncan Smith would not have accepted an in majority. That is why the likes of them have constantly banged the 'get out' drum for donkey's years and caused civil war in the Tory party over Europe, in particular Duncan Smith.
"His (Duncan Smith) victory in the contest was helped by the fact that his opponent in the final vote of party members was Kenneth Clarke, whose strong support for the European Union was at odds with the views of much of the party".
They would have been clamouring for a re-vote as Farage was.
MikeEFC1878x
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They are the the 'Facebook' under 30 generation, not use to losing and never seen real democracy.
Ken Clarke the chancellor who bust his guts to try and join the Euro?
Get over it out won by a million and a half votes!
Gwladysstreetlad
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Then
Then she should of convinced the Scottish people to leave the UK first time around. All this nonsense about Scotland voting to remain is just that, Nonsense! They voted to remain in the UK fully knowing the implications of the upcoming EU referendum. The people of the UNITED KINGDOM voted to leave and guess what? Scotland are a part of the UK thanks to their own people voting so.
Then she should of convinced the Scottish people to leave the UK first time around. All this nonsense about Scotland voting to remain is just that, Nonsense! They voted to remain in the UK fully knowing the implications of the upcoming EU referendum. The people of the UNITED KINGDOM voted to leave and guess what? Scotland are a part of the UK thanks to their own people voting so.
MikeEFC1878x
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Farage will be off in a few years, he is not my cup of tea. However in fairness to him he did engage with a lot of old labour voters who feel they are let down by the Blair ites in their party. He may of shown big holes in the labour and tory party for being so disconnected with normal people, hopefully that could be addressed by Jezza and Bojo maybe, doubt it though.
MikeEFC1878x
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Close to 40% of people in scotland wanted to leave, the would be a big backlash if she forced another ref as it would result in border with England/Uk.
I think she will keep losing.
Not true.
They voted Remain at the time because they were scaremongered into believing Scotland leaving would mean leaving the EU, which would have been the case.
The stayed because they thought that guaranteed Europe, because at the time Remain was like 70/30 in the polls.
The status quo has now changed. Just like if we were in the EU and they proposed a treaty change, a referendum should be called because we're leaving the EU, or independence should be outright given to Scotland.
Either way, Scotland are gone if we leave the EU. It's a matter of time.
I think there was another aspect to Cameron's resignation not covered in this article. Johnson and Gove both wanted Cameron to play the lead role in our negotiations with the EU. Effectively, this would have given Leave a free pass from any recriminations down the line. Get Cameron to do the negotiations and if and when we get terms that are not in line with the bright new world that Leave promised then the blame could simply be placed at Cameron's door.
On a separate issue, I get the impression that people like Johnson and Gove didn't for one minute actually believe they could win. Johnson in particular changed his opinion so many times during the campaign it was frightening. As an example, he started off by saying that a Leave vote wasn't really a vote to leave the EU but would give us the opportunity to renegotiate our terms with them. Be careful what you wish for.
Wishful thinking. They'd get independence by a landslide in a new referendum.
You're forgetting it'd be a vote not just for leaving England, but to join the EU. It's a no brainer for them.
Toffeelover
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The remain camp was badly set out, instead of lashing out at the leave camp and the scare mongering they should have been extolling the virtues of being in the EU and laying out plans to take on the EU for reform and getting a measure of control back into member states. They did not and have now paid the price. The Labour party in camp also got it badly wrong.
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