Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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The post was a direct quote from Labour MEP Richard Corbett, so hardly a project fear post. The problem is Joey the government is not addressing these issues, the government is not coping at all and we continue to lurch toward a bad-deal or worse case a no deal Brexit.
I agree with all that , but a very weak opposition and a remainer PM have not helped.......
You cannot reverse a democratic vote of 2016.....,
I feel with a half decent deal the UK would prosper worldwide more cheaply.....
 
Yet you've had Pete actively agitating for no deal extensively in recent weeks. I'm not sure being rational is an option when we're so close to March and there is still no indication if your wife can even stay in the country or not. Would you be rational?
Bruce been unwell today whiplash after my fall - I am sure your wife will be safe - the present Home Secretary looks a good sensible guy he was cringing today as Mays answers in PM QT.......
 
Bruce been unwell today whiplash after my fall - I am sure your wife will be safe - the present Home Secretary looks a good sensible guy he was cringing today as Mays answers in PM QT.......

Firstly I hope you’re feeling ok mate .

Secondly I think she’ll probably be ok as well but I’m not sure what either of us think will help him at the minute , I’m sure you can imagine how stressful a situation it must be and that just isn’t right .
 
To be honest, I'm more keen on that than she is as I can pretty much do what I do from anywhere. She works in children's healthcare, which isn't always well catered for in certain parts of Europe, although it's increasingly not here either. I'm up for it, although it might require digging up some Irish ancestry from the archives.

There must be better places out there for her than the U.K. (I mean professionally)? I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a lot about healthcare. From time to time I come across rapports in newspapers (something like the Euro Health Consumer Index), and the U.K. never ranks highly in those documents. And then I read stories on the forum here, about people having to wait ages to be able to see a mental health professional/specialist, some dude having to pay excessive amounts to pay his own knee replacement... Not enough beds etc... Or in the Guardian/other newspapers about overworked staff etc... .
 
So you formed an opinion on something without reading it, and then after you'd read it, your opinion was confirmed. I'm glad that it's only Herr Liebe who is biased :)

as a published writer myself i have a trained nose for these things...i did explain in detail why it's biased...do you agree or at least understand how one could come to that conclusion?
 
Bruce been unwell today whiplash after my fall - I am sure your wife will be safe - the present Home Secretary looks a good sensible guy he was cringing today as Mays answers in PM QT.......

I hope you're feeling a bit better mate and it's nothing serious. Re the status of EU residents here, not only does she feel less welcome due to the rhetoric over the last few years, but there has also been so much flip flopping involved that there is absolutely no certainty whatsoever. It's a poor show for people that have given a lot to this country.
 
as a published writer myself i have a trained nose for these things...i did explain in detail why it's biased...do you agree or at least understand how one could come to that conclusion?

To be fair, the study seemed to say that people had less of a welcoming stance than was originally portrayed, and less of an opposed stance than was later portrayed. That seemed to be the main takeaway, that the media inflated things at both ends of the spectrum. In reality, opinions towards refugees hasn't changed much at all. You can argue that the sample was small, but I'm not sufficiently grounded in research methods to understand what is a suitable sample size and what isn't, so I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt.
 
To be fair, the study seemed to say that people had less of a welcoming stance than was originally portrayed, and less of an opposed stance than was later portrayed. That seemed to be the main takeaway, that the media inflated things at both ends of the spectrum. In reality, opinions towards refugees hasn't changed much at all. You can argue that the sample was small, but I'm not sufficiently grounded in research methods to understand what is a suitable sample size and what isn't, so I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt.

it's a very generalist take, isn't it? hardly worth the virtual paper it's written on...the bold bit is also way too non-specific, as one of the biggest issues was the media/politicians/commentariat wilfully conflating economic migrants with actual refugees, any serious useful study would take that into account in their questioning.
 
I hope you're feeling a bit better mate and it's nothing serious. Re the status of EU residents here, not only does she feel less welcome due to the rhetoric over the last few years, but there has also been so much flip flopping involved that there is absolutely no certainty whatsoever. It's a poor show for people that have given a lot to this country.
I just hope common sense prevails over this issue - I have to agree Brexit so far has been handled very badly, but I can see a deal being done with the EU - a no deal Brexit imo is very unlikely !
 
Firstly I hope you’re feeling ok mate .

Secondly I think she’ll probably be ok as well but I’m not sure what either of us think will help him at the minute , I’m sure you can imagine how stressful a situation it must be and that just isn’t right .
It's not right a question today was over a 5 year old boy been here for years it's not on no one voted to expel exsisting rightful U.K. Citizens .....
The windrush scandal should never again happen....
 
I hope you're feeling a bit better mate and it's nothing serious. Re the status of EU residents here, not only does she feel less welcome due to the rhetoric over the last few years, but there has also been so much flip flopping involved that there is absolutely no certainty whatsoever. It's a poor show for people that have given a lot to this country.
stressful time for you both, thought they had given a guarantee that existing EU residence in the UK could stay?
hope it works out well for you in the end, doesn't it help you being from the UK ,I haven't a clue on the details of it at all at the moment, surely that must count for something.
 
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as a published writer myself i have a trained nose for these things...i did explain in detail why it's biased...do you agree or at least understand how one could come to that conclusion?

Being a published writer cuts no ice in this thread mate. Everyone is equally savaged... :D
 
Being a published writer cuts no ice in this thread mate. Everyone is equally savaged... :D

that is true mate and rightly so, i only mentioned it as i've seen such many times before. 'Thinktank'-pieces often betray an obvious taste of objective bias, as in one can objectively analyse it and prove bias (which i already did). This piece is funded by the European Research Council, which has, understandably, a pro-EU bias, and if it has a pro-EU bias, it has a pro-migration bias (the arguments with Hungary tells us so much). The Council is elitist, despite a mega-budget paid for by EU taxpayers...i.e. me & you. It grants less than 10% of the type of grant given to the author of that piece. The Guardian themselves did a critical piece of the Council.

Would they have funded a study which focussed on what Germans really felt? That would've entailed an entirely different method than the one granted here and the conclusion wouldn't make for pretty reading, hence the Council would reject such a submission. Ergo...bias.
 
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