Current Affairs EU In or Out

[edge]

We're not a United States of Europe though, are we? On the army point, I can sympathise to a large extent. On one hand Germany has a pacifist constitution forced upon them after the war, and most would support that, yet they're largely criticised now for not pulling their weight militarily, and what's more that by piggy backing on the defence of others, they've been able to spend the money to good effect elsewhere. Yet if they started investing in their army and pushing their weight around I don't suppose it would be long before Kaiser references were made. An EU army would also help states like Italy and Greece that are bearing the burden of managing the refugee situation.

It's one of those things that in many ways probably makes sense, just as a 'UN army' makes sense in many situations, but just as having joint UN forces doing stuff hasn't diminished from national armies, I doubt that an 'EU army' would either. It's just a shame that many people are happy to play dumb and overlook the obvious in order to score points.

imagine a EU army it would take 20 odd parliaments weeks to decide what to do with it, most wars would be over by the time they made there minds up and half them would change sides if the going got tough going on past records.
Russians would be in Brussels before they got around to voting.

 

[summerisle]

I'd just like to say, a couple of weeks ago I was granted German citizenship, so this here rat has jumped off the sinking ship that is Brexit Britain. I hope you 52%ers enjoy the sheetshow you've signed up for.

 

[Fedlingen]

imagine a EU army it would take 20 odd parliaments weeks to decide what to do with it, most wars would be over by the time they made there minds up and half them would change sides if the going got tough going on past records.
Russians would be in Brussels before they got around to voting.

If Russia in fact invaded Brussels, do you then honestly believe what you just wrote?

No Bruce, we have a combined army, it’s called NATO and it’s kept the peace. An EU army is just European politicians wanting the trappings and levers of even more power. NATO will probably never come into contact militarily with Russia, but with these arrogant clowns in Brussels and an Eu army, it would happen within weeks......

Within weeks. Really Pete? Really?

 

[Frang]

she will be tory leader one day

she is a reptile.

 

[Billy Dean]

Still progressing my Irish passport but given how many of us are doing it quite the backlog .

It was the same here in Deutschland. When I started my application they told me applications from Brits for German citizenship had increased 600% since the referendum.

 

[Joey66]

No wonder the EU cant get any sense out of her, she changes like the wind, has red lines then doesn't, will not do this or that and a few hours later says she will.
Unfit for office , needs binning right off.
I am voting for Corbyn anyway despite my misgivings , he at least isn't her , which is good enough for me right now, plus its more change on the horizon if he gets in which i quite like.

She could send the tories into oblivion - if we had a decent opposition her so called emergency GE she would have lost then anyway - my worry is the two parties are miles apart - She is going down in history as the worst PM ever - problem being leaving the door open for a revolution that may not work in corbynism , but if this debarcle carries on I will vote her out - that was pathetic leadership yesterday end of..........

 

[Joey66]

We need a general strike.

Great if we had any big industries left............
No dockers
No miners
steel works depleted etc etc
public unions less member due to cutbacks -
I stood on picket lines in my day - the railway union in London are the only big strikes you hear about today......
our manufacturing industries sold off by Thatcher, continued on with Blair........

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

she will be tory leader one day

Not with undertones of the accent she most certainly wont, can just imagine the 22 having some of that, not.

 

[Frang]

Not with undertones of the accent she most certainly wont, can just imagine the 22 having some of that, not.

imagine it !

people would be turning in their graves.

she was on about women who have been forced on to the street to make money in Liverpool, get up the job centre as theres loads of unfilled vacancies.

she's obviously totally out of touch from her roots

 

[Frang]

Women in Merseyside are 'taking to the red light district for the first time' because of Universal Credit , the government has been told.

Birkenhead MP Frank Field has written to Work and Pensions secretary Esther McVey to inform her that women in his constituency have been forced into sex work because the government's new welfare system is pushing them towards poverty.


Speaking in the House of Commons today, Ms McVey said she would not meet with the Merseyside women affected and added that “there are now record job opportunities” in the UK.

Mr Field said he wrote to the Liverpool-born welfare chief to raise his concerns after charities in his area - as well as the local police force - have become increasingly concerned about the impact Universal Credit is having

 

[edge]

If Russia in fact invaded Brussels, do you then honestly believe what you just wrote?



Within weeks. Really Pete? Really?

no mate because NATO wouldn't let it happen,
What would this EU army do that the UN or NATO don't do currently interested to know ?

 

[edge]

Not with undertones of the accent she most certainly wont, can just imagine the 22 having some of that, not.

they would have her the dirt bags, she has the stench of tory leader about her, useless ambitious, and doesn't care about the masses everything they are looking for.

 

[edge]

We need a general strike.

i am all for it count me in

 

[davids]

This morning the Norway model was being hyped,the Schrodinger's Cat Brexit.

 

[orchard]

i am all for it count me in

Your boss wouldn't notice