Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

You do all realise an agreement will be reached, right?

Undoubtedly.......good or bad there will be one.......

 

[Khalekan]

I wonder how many you made, or even understood......

This is not about me, Pete.

It is you whom is denigrating young people and sneering at the lack of “important” decisions 18 year olds have made in their lives.

Let me tell you some very “important” decisions 18 year old people make right across this country on an annual basis.

They sign up to join the army to protect our shores if called upon.

They enter police academies with a view to keeping our streets safe.

They commence studies at college and start on the road to becoming out future doctors, engineers, educators and all the other vital professions and occupations which make our country tick.

And in the case of lads like Tom Davies and Jonjoe Kenny, sign contracts to play for our beloved football club.

And what could be more “important” than that

 

[thirdmantackle]

Our tourism industry in the ROI is going to take a huge hit
Our biggest market for tourism is the UK, by a big %

 

[Khalekan]

Our tourism industry in the ROI is going to take a huge hit
Our biggest market for tourism is the UK, by a big %

Why would that stop English people visiting the Republic of Ireland

It sure won’t stop me

 

[edge]

Actually I do think that the ROI has forced the EU to do this now. They have to support The ROI after all that has happened......

doesn't look like they will Pete. well not the farmers anyway
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi1tLeZgozeAhUXOsAKHdx5D4AQFjACegQICRAB&url=https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/brussels-leak-points-52000-aid-cap-eu-farmers&usg=AOvVaw2YlvQ4pUjR0UcyhhkM44gq

 

[random]

Our tourism industry in the ROI is going to take a huge hit

Everything is going to take a hit mate, both in the UK and the EU, the size and impact will be in direct relation to whatever agreements are struck.

But rest assured the politicians will make sure that....

1. They are ok
2. Their rich friends are ok

3. The plebs get the shaft and the blame for everything that went wrong

 

[Khalekan]

Everything is going to take a hit mate, both in the UK and the EU, the size and impact will be in direct relation to whatever agreements are struck.

But rest assured the politicians will make sure that....

1. They are ok
2. Their rich friends are ok

3. The plebs get the shaft and the blame for everything that went wrong

Indeed.

The phrase turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind when one looks at some of the areas which went Brexit.

 

[The binman chronicles]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/16/false-promises-brexit-john-major

Seems true enough.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Brexit was supposed to be a revolution. Not just to do with our relationship with the EU, but with the rest of the world, and should also have signalled massive, much-needed reforms to the way the UK is governed over the next couple of decades. It was about making the UK a serious country again, with proper representation and robust institutions that support citizens and business, rather than the middling semi-vassal state it is now.

But the Government and the Civil Service never accepted this. They’re both too comfortable with the ‘status quo’ and not up to the task. They still haven’t accepted the result of the referendum, and are treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise, inevitably delivering Brexit in name only, and pleasing no one.

We might as well remain now and accept a future as part of the EU superstate, governed from a foreign capital and our governance and laws based on euro-centric compromise.

Ah so the evidence to date is not that Brexit promises were bonkers, but that the people implementing things aren't up to it. It's a handy outcome that doesn't require you to change your own views one bit

 

[Bruce Wayne]

This is not about me, Pete.

It is you whom is denigrating young people and sneering at the lack of “important” decisions 18 year olds have made in their lives.

Let me tell you some very “important” decisions 18 year old people make right across this country on an annual basis.

They sign up to join the army to protect our shores if called upon.

They enter police academies with a view to keeping our streets safe.

They commence studies at college and start on the road to becoming out future doctors, engineers, educators and all the other vital professions and occupations which make our country tick.

And in the case of lads like Tom Davies and Jonjoe Kenny, sign contracts to play for our beloved football club.

And what could be more “important” than that

Pete wilfully ignores that the vast majority of scientific and technological breakthroughs were made by people in their 20s and 30s. By the time they reach the age where leave voters reached the majority they're ready for the scrap heap

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Pete wilfully ignores that the vast majority of scientific and technological breakthroughs were made by people in their 20s and 30s. By the time they reach the age where leave voters reached the majority they're ready for the scrap heap

Another faux outrage is my father fought for this country while in their 20s...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Another faux outrage is my father fought for this country while in their 20s...

Joking aside, most of the research into this suggests that your 30s are the best age for fresh thinking as you have had the time to develop a good level of knowledge, without having sufficient time to become entrenched in the status quo. By the time you reach your latter years, it's incredibly rare to have new ideas because you're so accustomed to your way of doing things, so it always makes me chuckle when Joe, Pete et al like to pitch themselves as free thinking radicals boldly venturing into the promised land, only to be held back by young stick in the muds. Not for the first time, evidence doesn't really support them.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Brexit was supposed to be a revolution. Not just to do with our relationship with the EU, but with the rest of the world, and should also have signalled massive, much-needed reforms to the way the UK is governed over the next couple of decades. It was about making the UK a serious country again, with proper representation and robust institutions that support citizens and business, rather than the middling semi-vassal state it is now.

But the Government and the Civil Service never accepted this. They’re both too comfortable with the ‘status quo’ and not up to the task. They still haven’t accepted the result of the referendum, and are treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise, inevitably delivering Brexit in name only, and pleasing no one.

We might as well remain now and accept a future as part of the EU superstate, governed from a foreign capital and our governance and laws based on euro-centric compromise.

There won’t be much left of a United Kingdom if The current clowns in government push through with Brexit.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Brexit was supposed to be a revolution. Not just to do with our relationship with the EU, but with the rest of the world, and should also have signalled massive, much-needed reforms to the way the UK is governed over the next couple of decades. It was about making the UK a serious country again, with proper representation and robust institutions that support citizens and business, rather than the middling semi-vassal state it is now.

But the Government and the Civil Service never accepted this. They’re both too comfortable with the ‘status quo’ and not up to the task. They still haven’t accepted the result of the referendum, and are treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise, inevitably delivering Brexit in name only, and pleasing no one.

We might as well remain now and accept a future as part of the EU superstate, governed from a foreign capital and our governance and laws based on euro-centric compromise.

Brexit being a positive was a myth promoted by some of the most loathsome people in authority in the UK. The vote should never have been put to the people in the first place as the Politicians whose job it is to hold responsibility for important decisions should have come to a proper decision themselves and if they decided to leave, then there should have been a credible plan put forward with years of appropriate planning taking place in order to get it right.

As it turns out, those who are still championing Brexit - Farage, Mogg, Johnson, Davies etc still haven't put forward a credible plan despite dreaming about leaving the EU for years and years.

It's them who have let leave voters down.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Brexit being a positive was a myth promoted by some of the most loathsome people in authority in the UK. The vote should never have been put to the people in the first place as the Politicians whose job it is to hold responsibility for important decisions should have come to a proper decision themselves and if they decided to leave, then there should have been a credible plan put forward with years of appropriate planning taking place in order to get it right.

As it turns out, those who are still championing Brexit - Farage, Mogg, Johnson, Davies etc still haven't put forward a credible plan despite dreaming about leaving the EU for years and years.

It's them who have let leave voters down.

The laughable thing is that people have the temerity to suggest that those campaigning to leave were under no duty to have actually thought about how that might work, what it might involve and whether this impacted any positive/negatives. They've been given a clean slate, only to then pin the blame on those who actually are trying to implement it, or who never wanted it in the first place, for it not working. It's a really quite incredible logic.