Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Background
58 yrs old born and bred in Dublin
Visit Liverpool 10/12 times a year
Have a son working in HR in London and visit there 5/6 times a year
His partner is a deputy principal in a primary school

I’ve just read the first 100 pages of this thread and I have to say I’m absolutely gonsmacked at some of the views opined on them
People thinking the EU wouldn’t let Britain leave and would return negotiate to give Britain better terms
Jobs wouldn’t be lost
People wouldn’t leave the country
The government could scrap the result if they got a better deal

What planet were the leavers living on

This will hurt Ireland as well because of the amount of exports ( mainly foodstuff ) to Britain

Financial services companies have already moved from London to the IFSC in Dublin
Google Facebook Apple etc have all reduced numbers in Britain and moved them to Dublin
Google are in the process of building offices and apartments for 2000 new workers in Dublin
My own company now American owned but once a household name and a brand that was British to its core is looking at ways to move production from Britain to Ireland while still keeping its sales in Britain intact
Car manufacturers and large industries will want to leave for 1) Stability in Currency values 2) Avoiding tariffs

I’m afraid the ideas that leave vote had and the assumption there would be no hard Brexit and the EU would capitulate to Britain was wide of the Mark
Irish jobs have been lost to immigration and I’ve seen the queues in post offices on a Sat morning as millions is wired back to Eastern Europe but we coped and came through a financial crash
However I fear for Britain ( and as a consequence Ireland ) if Britain sticks to its guns over negotiations
You can’t have a free market and restriction of labour movement at the same time
You either take the whole pill or nothing at all
Oh as an aside the Irish consulate in London is dealing with record numbers of applications for Irish passports from people living in Britain with Irish ancestry
My own nephews are giving up their dual American / British passports for American /Irish dusl citizenship
 
flibbyflob said:
On another note here I wonder how many MP's who have stood up calling for a Peoples Vote which we all know is nothing of the sort and is actually a 2nd referendum that are in constituencies that voted by a majority to leave will still be in a job come the next election?

Mentioning no names Anna Soubry cough cough.
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I really hope that woman loses her well paid job......
 
Brisan123 said:
Background
58 yrs old born and bred in Dublin
Visit Liverpool 10/12 times a year
Have a son working in HR in London and visit there 5/6 times a year
His partner is a deputy principal in a primary school

I’ve just read the first 100 pages of this thread and I have to say I’m absolutely gonsmacked at some of the views opined on them
People thinking the EU wouldn’t let Britain leave and would return negotiate to give Britain better terms
Jobs wouldn’t be lost
People wouldn’t leave the country
The government could scrap the result if they got a better deal

What planet were the leavers living on

This will hurt Ireland as well because of the amount of exports ( mainly foodstuff ) to Britain

Financial services companies have already moved from London to the IFSC in Dublin
Google Facebook Apple etc have all reduced numbers in Britain and moved them to Dublin
Google are in the process of building offices and apartments for 2000 new workers in Dublin
My own company now American owned but once a household name and a brand that was British to its core is looking at ways to move production from Britain to Ireland while still keeping its sales in Britain intact
Car manufacturers and large industries will want to leave for 1) Stability in Currency values 2) Avoiding tariffs

I’m afraid the ideas that leave vote had and the assumption there would be no hard Brexit and the EU would capitulate to Britain was wide of the Mark
Irish jobs have been lost to immigration and I’ve seen the queues in post offices on a Sat morning as millions is wired back to Eastern Europe but we coped and came through a financial crash
However I fear for Britain ( and as a consequence Ireland ) if Britain sticks to its guns over negotiations
You can’t have a free market and restriction of labour movement at the same time
You either take the whole pill or nothing at all
Oh as an aside the Irish consulate in London is dealing with record numbers of applications for Irish passports from people living in Britain with Irish ancestry
My own nephews are giving up their dual American / British passports for American /Irish dusl citizenship
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Then it all sounds good for Ireland doesn’t it, and I hope you all do very well. However, if it is not so good for Ireland then why hasn’t Varadkar had his ear bent.........
 
peteblue said:
Then it all sounds good for Ireland doesn’t it, and I hope you all do very well. However, if it is not so good for Ireland then why hasn’t Varadkar had his ear bent.........
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Because even though we export a lot to Britain we owe the EU and the IMF a small fortune plus the American foreign investment is where the real money and jobs is
A 4 or 5 % rise in food exports to growing markets like China , Russia , Middle East will ease the burden of not exporting as much to Britain , plus Britain won’t be keen to put tariffs on foodstuffs as it doesn’t produce enough to feed itself and has to import to feed its people
The hard Brexit scenario and the border with the six counties makes it a hard task for Ireland to control a hard Brexit
We had a hard border in the 60s and no one wants a return to those days
Ireland will suffer a bit from this but I think the EU will soften the blow to keep us and other nations sweet
 
Brisan123 said:
Because even though we export a lot to Britain we owe the EU and the IMF a small fortune plus the American foreign investment is where the real money and jobs is
A 4 or 5 % rise in food exports to growing markets like China , Russia , Middle East will ease the burden of not exporting as much to Britain , plus Britain won’t be keen to put tariffs on foodstuffs as it doesn’t produce enough to feed itself and has to import to feed its people
The hard Brexit scenario and the border with the six counties makes it a hard task for Ireland to control a hard Brexit
We had a hard border in the 60s and no one wants a return to those days
Ireland will suffer a bit from this but I think the EU will soften the blow to keep us and other nations sweet
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Excellent, I’m glad you will be ok.....
 
Brexit was supposed to be a revolution. Not just to do with our relationship with the EU, but with the rest of the world, and should also have signalled massive, much-needed reforms to the way the UK is governed over the next couple of decades. It was about making the UK a serious country again, with proper representation and robust institutions that support citizens and business, rather than the middling semi-vassal state it is now.

But the Government and the Civil Service never accepted this. They’re both too comfortable with the ‘status quo’ and not up to the task. They still haven’t accepted the result of the referendum, and are treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise, inevitably delivering Brexit in name only, and pleasing no one.

We might as well remain now and accept a future as part of the EU superstate, governed from a foreign capital and our governance and laws based on euro-centric compromise.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Kind of is England's fault though isn't it due to the population disparity. It would have taken all the celtic nations to have voted remain to be in the very high 60's percent wise to change it. By my rough calculations a 70% remain vote in NI, Scotland and Wales means it would have swung the otherway by 117k votes.

Given the EU never had that much support one side or tother was always going to be a big ask. Or put in a more succinct way England had to have a majority vote to remain for it to have any chance of winning.
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Imagine such a scenario had played out.

the Irish, the Scots and the Welsh had vited Remain in sufficient numbers to outvote an English majority to Leave.

The English Brexiteers would not have been talking about preserving their “precious union” then.....they would have been demanding its break up so they could go it alone lol
 
Jamiednm said:
Brexit was supposed to be a revolution. Not just to do with our relationship with the EU, but with the rest of the world, and should also have signalled massive, much-needed reforms to the way the UK is governed over the next couple of decades. It was about making the UK a serious country again, with proper representation and robust institutions that support citizens and business, rather than the middling semi-vassal state it is now.

But the Government and the Civil Service never accepted this. They’re both too comfortable with the ‘status quo’ and not up to the task. They still haven’t accepted the result of the referendum, and are treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise, inevitably delivering Brexit in name only, and pleasing no one.

We might as well remain now and accept a future as part of the EU superstate, governed from a foreign capital and our governance and laws based on euro-centric compromise.
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No mate, because you are right. We have been sold down the river by our elite, but we must leave nonetheless.......
 
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