Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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hullefc said:
As soon as someone from a car company says Brexit is a bad idea the Brexiteers jump all over them with their 'project fear'. According to them their is a 'bright new world' out there for trade. Obviously, motor manufacturers 'don't see it, don't get it etc'. Incredible, they are going to 'make a packet' but are against this by warning that Brexit will be disastrous for car manufacturers. As far as world trade goes for UK cars the strategy will be made in Germany, France, India and Japan not in London.
Car manufacturers have worked out about supply chains, WTO tariffs on their goods sold abroad until there are trade deals. They will have factored them in including the added costs to transporting more goods around the world. How many UK Nissan's sold in Australia are made in Sunderland? Same how many in Brazil, Africa? We are told that the Commonwealth will take up the slack. How many in Africa, India, Asia can afford a UK made car? Courtesy of 3 men in a pub. A very good watch is 3 men in a pub Brexit part 1.
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Here’s a former strategist for JLR explaining exactly how detailed their Brexit planning has been, and why.

But of course some back bench Brexiteer and Bob down the Dog and Duck knows better....

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/jlr-boss-attacked-by-palpably-absurd-brexiteers/
 
Chewbacca said:
Said your mates were, not you.
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I'm brown in colour, and I have or used to have with moving around for employment all types of mates some who voted OUT....... one was a former young apprentice of mine far younger than me... the ideological feelings on here that brexiters who voted out come under a old general themes of criteria , and of nasty names is farcical .........
highest turn out post war students given extra time to register to vote etc - so let's have another referendum as the Westminster bubble know different - Liverpool did well on an EU grant - our money already paid in.......
some EU projects are a horrible waste......... google them ....
I admit the development in Liverpool has fetched the needed income to the city - we did not need the EU to decide that...... The local authority organised it anyway.......
 
Joey66 said:
I'm brown in colour, and I have or used to have with moving around for employment all types of mates some who voted OUT....... one was a former young apprentice of mine far younger than me... the ideological feelings on here that brexiters who voted out come under a old general themes of criteria , and of nasty names is farcical .........
highest turn out post war students given extra time to register to vote etc - so let's have another referendum as the Westminster bubble know different - Liverpool did well on an EU grant - our money already paid in.......
some EU projects are a horrible waste......... google them ....
I admit the development in Liverpool has fetched the needed income to the city - we did not need the EU to decide that...... The local authority organised it anyway.......
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Why do you dislike receiving EU money so much ? Is it because it makes you feel somewhat dependent on them, and you find that abhorrent when you feel that should be standing on your own feet ? If that is so, you are missing the point as to why the EU exists - it is for the mutual benefit of all its member states, not for the purpose of some member states dominating others. At the end of the day it is only narrow minded nationalism that prevents you appreciating that principle. Sadly after Brexit you are going to find this out to your cost.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
Why do you dislike receiving EU money so much ? Is it because it makes you feel somewhat dependent on them, and you find that abhorrent when you feel that should be standing on your own feet ? If that is so, you are missing the point as to why the EU exists - it is for the mutual benefit of all its member states, not for the purpose of some member states dominating others. At the end of the day it is only narrow minded nationalism that prevents you appreciating that principle. Sadly after Brexit you are going to find this out to your cost.
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EU money is our money we are in a deficit of 8 billion a year - also the rest some of it is our money which the give it back telling us how it has to be spent .......we put 18 billion in per year if our growth goes up - we are pinished to pay more ....
Most countries pay nothing ..... it a gravy train for civil servants and affords two parliaments in an unelected commission....
That's why I voted Out.......
 
Joey66 said:
EU money is our money we are in a deficit of 8 billion a year - also the rest some of it is our money which the give it back telling us how it has to be spent .......we put 18 billion in per year if our growth goes up - we are pinished to pay more ....
Most countries pay nothing ..... it a gravy train for civil servants and affords two parliaments in an unelected commission....
That's why I voted Out.......
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Sounds a bit mean that, counting the pennies. It's a standard 'Leave' response to measure everything in black and white / pluses and minuses.

Surely you can appreciate that the benefits in terms of the Single Market attracting inward investment far outweighs any penny-pinching.
 
Joey66 said:
EU money is our money we are in a deficit of 8 billion a year - also the rest some of it is our money which the give it back telling us how it has to be spent .......we put 18 billion in per year if our growth goes up - we are pinished to pay more ....
Most countries pay nothing ..... it a gravy train for civil servants and affords two parliaments in an unelected commission....
That's why I voted Out.......
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To say our current deal with the EU runs at a net deficit based solely on the membership fee, just shows how facile the entire argument has been tbh mate.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
Sounds a bit mean that, counting the pennies. It's a standard 'Leave' response to measure everything in black and white / pluses and minuses.

Surely you can appreciate that the benefits in terms of the Single Market attracting inward investment far outweighs any penny-pinching.
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16 billion in pennies to then be told how to spend it is not petty......
 
Joey66 said:
16 billion in pennies to then be told how to spend it is not petty......
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You make it sound like it was your money. In the event that there were any superficial savings they would probably be spent on the next nuclear deterrent anyway. The British taxpayer wouldn't see a penny of it, neither would the public services.

I'm afraid the Leave campaign have sold you and others a dummy here.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
You make it sound like it was your money. In the event that there were any superficial savings they would probably be spent on the next nuclear deterrent anyway. The British taxpayer wouldn't see a penny of it, neither would the public services.

I'm afraid the Leave campaign have sold you and others a dummy here.
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It's the remainers who suck dummies after defeat;)
 
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