Current Affairs EU In or Out

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

I have no problem whatsoever with people voting to leave, but only if it's a considered vote of all aspects of both sides sides aims and policies. my biggest fear is that a load of little Englander zionist have weighed in with their vote, with the simple aim of stopping human beings moving to our shores and giving no effect to what it may and already is appearing to do to our economy.

Doubt it was the zionists like

 

[harry]

Yeah, righto indeed.

Don't bother to listen to the other points I've made in this, or any other thread regarding the issue, just pick one single thing out and attribute that as my sole idea that's of any 'benefit' (says you).

And you wonder why remain lost.

unfortunately this is the world we have created mate an the people.

 

[JLW]

I think you have to put an email address in to officially sign it, so I guess it would depend on how many email addresses you had?

What about a Selfie will that do, then they might be arsed

 

[orchard]

You're right, but the 'could' is operative, and probably wouldn't happen if it's the Spiv's negotiating.

Why can't it happen? You're going to say the EU won't allow it, and that any trade deal must abide by the stipulations of the EU. Once independent, we aren't obliged to accept any EU stipulation, and the negotiations that take place in the formulation of a trade agreement will also include stipulations of our own, which absolutely could involve limitations on immigration.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Why can't it happen? You're going to say the EU won't allow it, and that any trade deal must abide by the stipulations of the EU. Once independent, we aren't obliged to accept any EU stipulation, and the negotiations that take place in the formulation of a trade agreement will also include stipulations of our own, which absolutely could involve limitations on immigration.

The EU would have to agree to said limitations though, which I doubt they will

They don't have to do a deal at the end of the day

I am 95% certain that free movement will remain once the negotiations are finished, and I fear what will happen at that point, because people could get exceedingly angry

 

[ianefc]

The EU would have to agree to said limitations though, which I doubt they will

They don't have to do a deal at the end of the day

I am 95% certain that free movement will remain once the negotiations are finished, and I fear what will happen at that point, because people could get exceedingly angry

I hope so.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I genuinely have yet to see one of your points that can be backed up with facts

So there are no people who can't get a job because they are being taken by parasitical agencies who employ exclusively from abroad, and are then getting their dole stopped by the PCS (DWP branch) union because they've committed the CRIME of being out of work?

There's no bedroom tax because there's a housing shortage, because there are 40 romanians living in one house, working for £3 an hour after board & lodgings causing the Govt to complain of overcrowding?

There's no gangs of gypsies going round stealing metal, then selling it to scrapyards, taking the receipt to the DHSS so they can say they're self-employed and get an NI number in order to access the welfare system & NHS - both of which are under immense pressure?


And the EU have done loads to prevent all this happening, haven't they?

No, there's been none of it happening at all, has there?. Well, here's the news....17 million or so disagreed with you.

How d'ya like them apples?

 

[Alan Whittle]

Control has been taken back from Eton and Oxbridge educated toffs and will be given to Eto...oh, no, ....wait.

 

[dead_soft]

So there are no people who can't get a job because they are being taken by parasitical agencies who employ exclusively from abroad, and are then getting their dole stopped by the PCS (DWP branch) union because they've committed the CRIME of being out of work?

There's no bedroom tax because there's a housing shortage, because there are 40 romanians living in one house, working for £3 an hour after board & lodgings causing the Govt to complain of overcrowding?

There's no gangs of gypsies going round stealing metal, then selling it to scrapyards, taking the receipt to the DHSS so they can say they're self-employed and get an NI number in order to access the welfare system & NHS - both of which are under immense pressure?


And the EU have done loads to prevent all this happening, haven't they?

No, there's been none of it happening at all, has there?. Well, here's the news....17 million or so disagreed with you.

How d'ya like them apples?

Ha, oh my. 'gypsies going round stealing metal' '40 Romanians living in one house'. Do you think that leaving the EU would change this dystopian island you've invented? Or that this is actually anywhere close to being a genuine issue? You are a genuinely stupid man living in a fantasy world.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

To be honest, immigration isn't really an issue for me and never has been

Keeping free movement wouldn't bother me, but I know for lots of people it would, and honestly I'm a bit fearful of what will happen if they don't get what they want

I honestly think it's not out of the question to suggest there will be riots and violence against minority groups if the brexit leaders don't deliver

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Guess what mate, older people have kids and grand kids. I'm sure they crossed their mind when making the decision. Is it not possible that people with more life experience can make a decision that they think will be better for their kids?.

Whilst I'm sure you and plenty of others voted rationally and had future generations in mind, I'd wager that there was also plenty of people who voted against dem der evil immigrants and considered little else.

I voted remain mate, but it's to early to say that your going to have to live with the consequences of a leave vote, when we don't really know what the consequences of us leaving will be. It could all turn out for the best, and your generation benefit from it.

That has been the problem since the leave vote, it's all been 'doom and gloom' and it's the end of civilisation as we know it.

At the end of the day we're all in it together now whether the you voted leave or remain, and we just need to now get on with it and make it work.

You're right of course, scaremongering from one side and posturing from the other. The biggest shame really is the way those overpaid spilt schoolboys have gone about the whole thing, not an ounce of sincerity between them. I guess we just all pull together to make the best of it now.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Ha, oh my. 'gypsies going round stealing metal' '40 Romanians living in one house'. Do you think that leaving the EU would change this dystopian island you've invented? Or that this is actually anywhere close to being a genuine issue? You are a genuinely stupid man living in a fantasy world.

And there it is....

Didn't take much, except for the facts.

I gave you the opportunity, and you bit as was all too predictable.

They're not issues at all, them....hell they're not even facts because you don't like hearing them so you'll choose to ignore & dismiss them. And STILL you wonder why remain lost....

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I hope so.

I don't mate

It'll be carnage if the leave voters feel they've been "betrayed" and innocent people could get caught in the crossfire

 

[Gadfly]

Voting leave means voting Boris Johnson as the next PM.

Which was a mental decision.

 

[dead_soft]

And there it is....

Didn't take much, except for the facts.

I gave you the opportunity, and you bit as was all too predictable.

They're not issues at all, them....hell they're not even facts because you don't like hearing them so you'll choose to ignore & dismiss them. And STILL you wonder why remain lost....

they're not facts, they're garbled Daily Express headlines.