Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Ruairi77]

Unless/until they centralise a bank, an economic policy, and budgets for the entire EU, it simply, cannot last.

Yup, I've no idea what lays ahead for the ECB or the currency but it makes sense to be in on the conversation.

 

[peteblue]

The UK was not a member of Schengen
The UK was not a member of the Eurozone or EMU
The UK had a flexible opt-out from justice, home affairs, freedom and security measures and could choose to participate in them on a case-by-case basis
The UK had a flexible opt-out of the charter of fundamental rights.

In order for Europe to move towards a super state, another treaty would have to pass that stripped guarantees to Ireland on self determination with regards to defense and taxation. These changes would be constitutional and therefore subject to a referendum, a referendum that would fail (as it did before). There are a number of hoops the likes of Denmark and Sweden would have to jump through too.

The workings of the EU have not changed hugely since the implementation of the Lisbon treaty and is nowhere near a super state, to think otherwise is paranoia.

The UK had a good deal and had the potential to negotiate an even better one. But, instead, you decided to take the ball and go home.

No we didn’t. And as your post already shows, we were never really a ‘european’ partner, we were always separate, so it’s best for the U.K. and the EU to go our separate ways.......

 

[peteblue]

Yup, I've no idea what lays ahead for the ECB or the currency but it makes sense to be in on the conversation.

Why?....we will not be part of it.....

 

[peteblue]

Unless/until they centralise a bank, an economic policy, and budgets for the entire EU, it simply, cannot last.

Indeed......

 

[peteblue]

Pete, when have I insinuated that leave voters are all racists or haven’t considered the pros and cons?

Fair enough, this is the problem though, when an opinion is forever denigrated and lumped in with an incorrect view, a reaction happens......I apologise......

 

[Ruairi77]

Why?....we will not be part of it.....

I was talking from an Irish perspective but the point still stands.

 

[peteblue]

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Well 75 percent in his constituency who he represents voted Out - tell me how he is representing them?........

That’s not true for a start off.

 

[Ruairi77]

No we didn’t. And as your post already shows, we were never really a ‘european’ partner, we were always separate, so it’s best for the U.K. and the EU to go our separate ways.......

Not sure what to say to this really. I have a feeling that if the EU offered the UK entry in to the single market and customs union with no requirements, you'd probably say 'no'.

 

[peteblue]

That’s not true for a start off.

A misinterpretation, but Joey is still right his constituency voted Leave. He will be toast before the next election......

 

[peteblue]

Not sure what to say to this really. I have a feeling that if the EU offered the UK entry in to the single market and customs union with no requirements, you'd probably say 'no'.

With no requirements or following EU law, I would immediately agree.....trade is trade, political union is something else completely.......

 

[Joey66]

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That’s not true for a start off.

Google it
His constituency voted higher than the final vote of Out by the way Out won by over 1 million votes.......

 

[Harryflashman]

A misinterpretation, but Joey is still right his constituency voted Leave. He will be toast before the next election......

A misrepresentation in that it simply wasn’t true ? I don’t disagree with you though that his constituency had a majority for leave but haven’t we all had enough in this debate of lies ?

 

[Harryflashman]

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Google it

Isn’t it 53%, if not then you have my apologies

 

[wikofootball]

Mps have rendered themselves useless in brexit fiasco tory coup