Current Affairs EU In or Out

[ToffeeDoug]

So, views on a General Election in 2016?

Whoever is elected Conservative leader, and thus PM, is not going to make the mistake that Brown did in not seeking a mandate from the electorate?

Fixed terms though, so no discretion on election timings, right?

 

[Brennan]

Fixed terms though, so no discretion on election timings, right?

A prime minister can still call an election with the support of two thirds of MPs. I see no problem with the future PM getting that.

 

[Eggs]

So, views on a General Election in 2016?

Whoever is elected Conservative leader, and thus PM, is not going to make the mistake that Brown did in not seeking a mandate from the electorate?

....yep, thought about this earlier and it is a concern of mine. Boris is likely to be elected leader and I can see him calling an election on the euphoria of his promotion. He'll win with a greater Conservative majority than now and we'll have 5 years of him IDS, Michael a Grove et al.

The question is what will the UK look like in 2022 when the next election comes along. I'm concerned.

 

[The Esk]

Fixed terms though, so no discretion on election timings, right?

Just requires a 2/3rds parliamentary majority to call an early election (Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011)

 

[Professor Toffee]

....yep, thought about this earlier and it is a concern of mine. Boris is likely to be elected leader and I can see him calling an election on the euphoria of his promotion. He'll win with a greater Conservative majority than now and we'll have 5 years of him IDS, Michael a Grove et al.

The question is what will the UK look like in 2022 when the next election comes along. I'm concerned.

Germany 1936

 

[Lee Smith]

Some people on here and also the media making a big story about the GBP falling sharply against the USD during one day's trading, but the thing is, that's what happens on market trading when an unforeseen circumstances arises and the market gets a shock.

The fact of the matter is, for two years now, and way before the referendum was even announced, and whilst we were still plodding along happily as part of the EU, the GBP had been on a downward move against the USD (see above). Yes when taken in isolation today's drop was quite severe, but when compared to the longer term trend it is not much of an anomaly.

Also, even many Leave campaigners had warned us that a short term hit was to be expected in the immediate aftermath of a Leave vote. Let's see how the markets look 5 years after a Brexit, not 5 hours.

 

[zirc]

Why is there such a negative perception to Turkey?

Why are they worse than Latvia, Lithuania... Estonia, Slovakia? Not that they're a benchmark - they're all random.

Genuine question - never understood the negativity towards Turkey potentially joining the EU.

Less blond and more Muslim, I guess.

Seriously though it's a huge country, much bigger than any of the aforementioned and maybe perceived as culturally more different. There are also a lot of Turkish immigrants in Europe, maybe the fear is that number would greatly increase.

 

[Seanjd]

....yep, thought about this earlier and it is a concern of mine. Boris is likely to be elected leader and I can see him calling an election on the euphoria of his promotion. He'll win with a greater Conservative majority than now and we'll have 5 years of him IDS, Michael a Grove et al.

The question is what will the UK look like in 2022 when the next election comes along. I'm concerned.

Yeah but mate at least we have erm, like.. Control of our borders and stuff?

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

It will mate (time), and I'm no expert - I've not got a clue to be fair, but I do know the media love to whip up some hysteria so try an look for a balanced view.

I then look at this and wonder...



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Only if the main stream media could show hard facts like this then maybe people would calm them selves down a bit

Who'd have thought that these city fat cats would scare the markets into selling cheap cleaning up then make a few quid, only if I had the money I'd be coining it in on all the bed wetters right now myself

 

[Tubey]

Honestly he probably ought to have kept shut about it. Agree with what he said but it comes of as patronising and lecturing especially when the US is so isolationist itself.

Agreed really. If he didn't say anything he'd have been criticised for that too though.

 

[Neiler]

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Just requires a 2/3rds parliamentary majority to call an early election (Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011)

Yes, so little discretion as such, but the support of 435 or so MPs. A 100 non-Tories required.

 

[Rob17896]

So what you are saying is the 17.4 million people who voted out did it purely for immigration and nothing else.

I have come to the conclusion that the swathes of society who are having a hard time have just voted for change. If you see no benefit then you would. We have left a lot of people out and they just want some hope. It was a bad decision but I can see why it has happened. They just hope something arrives for them. Labour, Tories have let them down. EU got the blame.

 

[Tubey]

Only if the main stream media could show hard facts like this then maybe people would calm them selves down a bit

Who'd have thought that these city fat cats would scare the markets into selling cheap cleaning up then make a few quid, only if I had the money I'd be coining it in on all the bed wetters right now myself

It's not the short term that is the issue. A recession, if there is one, will be mild.

However, the long term will definitely see adverse effects. If we had an alternative timeline where we stayed in, you'd see the difference between the two.

 

[zirc]

Agreed really. If he didn't say anything he'd have been criticised for that too though.

I think he'd of been fine if he just said it's Britain's choice and respect the decision either way.