they also have a 30% corporate tax rate and don't speak English
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Foot Long Hot Dog
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JCB are owned by Tory donators - the Bamford family
In addition their beef with the EU is nothing to do with the EU somehow stopping deals going through lol. They got fined by the EU for their restrictive trade practices, which basically made it impossible for their retailers to trade outside of their local markets which is against completion law.
You're so gullible Joe mate
The EU is for massive Tory businesses and Bankers mr socialist, Jezza puts a good front on he wants out too!
Didn't you say a few pages ago that the poor can get stuffed?
Probably up to NI to be honest!lol With the new it’s Maybe Britain, Maybe Irieland, Maybe Europe pick your favourate day arrangement.
Sure, the trading, free movement/travel, businesses growing, cheaper hand, research money, investing in poorer areas of the UK accordingly to the EU projects - nothing.
Germany has contributed vastly more so and will continue to do so with or without you. In fact, the money Germany and France pay you in rebates will cover more than enough for you leaving, perhaps, as they actually pay you the rebate themselves for the most part.
Great answer. In the same spirit -
"Big money go up up = big tax go up up with big money. Same same with big country money."
If your wage, per month, is, for example, €1000, your tax is most likely 20% on it. Meaning you get a flat paycheck of €800.
If your wage goes higher, to, for example, €1200, your tax is STILL 20% on it. Meaning you get a flat paycheck of €960.
The money you receive is more. The money you give to authorities is also more as per contractual and tax obligations.
Same with your country - you give (IIRC, might be wrong on the exact percentage) a 9.6% FLAT RATE to the EU fund. When your GDP goes higher - that 9.6% is more money. When your GDP goes lower - that 9.6% is less money.
Hit me up if you need an example with apples or lollipops though. Defo not annoying that you and Pete (occasionally for him at least) are the only two people who seemingly can't understand written text... and even more ironic coming from someone who's never heard of or used proper punctuation on here ffs.
Can you do some joined up writing please?lol
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Can you learn to read please?
Sensible post yes!lol
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Pete you keep saying these things yet where is an ounce of proof?
The £8bn you quote clearly ignores any of the benefits of EU membership.
The one and only good thing Maggie Thatcher ever did for the UK was negotiate the various EU rebates and concessions. That will never be repeated. The future trade deal with the EU will be a lot worse than we have currently. It has to be by any sense of logic.
That's the world's biggest trading block, on our doorstep, and we're going to be worse off.
Ah but "we've got the rest of the world lad to trade with". Sounds great doesn't it. Except we're currently pretty high up in terms of an advanced services economy. We don't have much in the way of manufacturing and our agricultural sector is highly protected.
Do we actually want cheap food imports flooding the country?
London based professional/financial services are our key export and they uniformally voted Remain. I'm sure I seen a poll before the referendum saying something like 325 of 330 top FTSE CEOs wanted to Remain.
But that can be just ignored. Of course we're going to be better off. Except the government's own growth forecasts show us virtually stagnant for the next 10 years.
And that's without all the impact assessments on individual sectors of the economy.
Pete/Joey are you both honestly happy that the government haven't done any calculations to work out the impact of leaving the EU?!?!
Charlie Sweet
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I do get the principles of the sovereignty arguments but the angsg against the European Court of Justice is so academic.
In practical terms can anyone name a single bad law or decision they've been responsible for?!
In practical terms can anyone name a single bad law or decision they've been responsible for?!
The whole 'trading with the world' shtick hasn't really been thought through. In the past 24 hours, Joe has failed to grasp the fact that the EU has bilateral deals with all but seven WTO members, so falling back on WTO terms would make things significantly worse than they are now. He then followed that up with an attempt to poo poo the deal finalised yesterday between the EU and Japan (the biggest trade deal in history) by suggesting the Japanese economy is over the hill. That's the 3rd biggest economy in the world.
I get that leave voters dislike having aspersions cast against them, but whether among the electorate as a whole or leave supporting politicians (Davis and his lack of planning are a fine example), it just smacks of amateur hour.
At what point will the majority realise that this will be worse for the country, both in terms of finances and workers' rights? Too late?
It smacks now of face-saving exercise to me. And it ain't going very well.
Will they acknowledge that the best deal that could possibly be agreed will probably be miles worse than what we currently have?
Ergo, in what possible way is this supposed to be "in the best interest of the U.K."? Surely the best thing to do would be knock it all on the head.
I'm inclined to think all they're trying to do now is save face. Knocking it on the head would be hugely embarrassing so I don't expect that to happen. If anything, this week has shown the willingness of the EU to play ball on that, as they could have made May look utterly ridiculous.
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