peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Because we said we will not put up an Irish hard border where none exists at present. If the EU and ROI wishes to put up a border on their side then they are within their rights to do so......
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Because we said we will not put up an Irish hard border where none exists at present. If the EU and ROI wishes to put up a border on their side then they are within their rights to do so......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I was not replying to you.....
roydo
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So by extension, you are perfectly happy with retaining free movement of people between the EU and the UK?
roydo
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Thought so. Easy to do!
peteblue
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It’s exactly the same.....
peteblue
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Yes, from ROI to NI......
You are ignorant as feck, if you think that, wow Pete just wow.
You took our country by force and occupied it for many moons. We wanted rid of you because it was our land not yours and we were tired of being occupied.
Tell me are you really saying that Britain joined the EU by force? And they forced you all these years to belong?
How in your mind is it the same that is just stupid and typical of a stubborn old school conservative Brit quite frankly. You have lost a lot of respect from me if you are equating both ridiculous.
Shown your true colours Pete really....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
You are currently living in a country that was created by war, that grew through more wars and is now known as the USA. All of the countries in Europe came about through war and occupation. Alliances are made, just like the U.K. and Ireland did after Independence and sometimes they are dissolved, just like the U.K. wishes to do now with the EU.....
The Good Friday Agreement stipulates that any Irish citizens, which includes those with Irish passports living in the north are allowed to reside anywhere on the island of Ireland. In other words, there cannot be any checks on peoples' movements, therefore there cannot be a border that checks the movement of people on the island of Ireland. As the Good Friday Agreement is an international treaty signed by two sovereign governments and lodged with the UN, it can't be amended, repealed or torn up. The government spokesperson was forced to admit this in parliament yesterday.
The Northern Ireland Act 1989 is different and is now the focus for amending as it stipulates that the Stormont assembly can only pass laws that are compatible with EU law. If not then it goes to the ECJ for a ruling. The Tories will have to try and amended this. However, the GFA and the Northern Ireland Act were signed in conjunction with changes in the Irish constitution. The UK government repealing the Northern Ireland Act will mean the Irish government can alter their constitution back to claiming the north as part of Ireland.
Any changes to any of the 2 signed agreements by a UK government, will mean there will be a push for a border vote on the status of the north of the island of Ireland.
If the north is unified with the south, then the UK government can then give the NHS the £350 million that Northern Ireland gets every week.
roydo
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So by extension, the EU. Thanks.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
No need to thank me, I’ve posted this many times before......
Firstly it was no "alliance". It was an occupation of a sovereign land. You took our country by force and pillaged it. Look up history it was no alliance. You have a twisted view on the whole thing.
Oh and we were our own nation before you did it. It was not created because of it. NI was but not the south.
Really so now its a war you are having with the EU?
No, its not, you guys became members of a group and wish to leave but on your terms and not the Groups terms which no doubt was agreed to to begin with.
How you think its anything like any of what you mention is simply madness
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Yeah, that you want an open border between ROI and NI. That equates to an open border between the UK and the EU.
So do you want an open border between the UK and the EU?
peteblue
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I am of Irish descent, the whole of my family came from Ireland, both maternal and paternal, family members were involved with Irish Independence and provided help to De Valera, so I do have some understanding.......
Now take away your hatred of the U.K. and think what is the best for Ireland. The best is that they continue as much like before as possible. The only people who don’t give a damn are based in Brussels for it is they, and they alone, who will force the ROI to put in a hard border......
peteblue
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Within Ireland yes....
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