Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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I don't get this argument that people voted for change, as in essence many of those who voted leave were those left behind by the changes wrought by globalisation and technological disruption. It was people who were swept away by change and wanted the state to make things simpler for them by restricting competition, both in the labour market and in the economy. It would seem pretty odd to me to believe that the people of Lincoln were voting for us to become 'Singapore upon Thames'.
 
jal123 said:
I've got to say I'm getting choked up at my hero, my mate @roydo fighting the good fight in here.

He'll be reading the communist manifesto next
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I dont see this debate as a party related one mate. Its a dead odd loose collaboration, (on both sides), of all sorts.

Totally unprovable, but I would bet a lot of remain voters did so not cos of any fervent support or love of the EU, but almost reluctantly/didnt like the prominate Leave campaigners. (and some others, obvs)
 
roydo said:
I dont see this debate as a party related one mate. Its a dead odd loose collaboration, (on both sides), of all sorts.

Totally unprovable, but I would bet a lot of remain voters did so not cos of any fervent support or love of the EU, but almost reluctantly/didnt like the prominate Leave campaigners. (and some others, obvs)
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Let's be fair if the opposition consisted of Nigel Farage, Aaron Banks and Boris Johnson then it gives a pretty good idea what side you should be on!


Except if you are oppressing CHANGE of course.

WILL OF THE PEOPLE
 
jal123 said:
Let's be fair if the opposition consisted of Nigel Farage, Aaron Banks and Boris Johnson then it gives a pretty good idea what side you should be on!


Except if you are oppressing CHANGE of course.

WILL OF THE PEOPLE
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Yeah, but across the UK, folk who Labour or Tory could rely on in a GE voted, voted leave. Must have done.
 
roydo said:
Yeah, but across the UK, folk who Labour or Tory could rely on in a GE voted, voted leave. Must have done.
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Labour strongholds in working class areas mostly voted leave, but then the leader of the Labour Party has campaigned for it all his life.

Unfortunately for sensible people they'll both get what they want, for different reasons. saint Jeremy isn't a racist but the majority of people in working class areas who voted leave are.

I mean they think this vote was to 'send them back home'


Of course highly intelligent men like Farage preyed on this, and got what they wanted.
 
jal123 said:
The consequences are presenting themselves, have you not heard of people leaving, have you not opened your eyes to any reports that banks are moving divisions to Frankfurt, Paris, Dublin? Not heard that EasyJet are moving to Austria? It's just the start. Japan are negotiating a trade deal with the EU, do you think they'll keep their car manufacturing here (lol at the dopes in Sunderland cutting their own throats), there's Vauxhall in Ellesmere Port, now French owned. That's a lot of jobs, a lot of corporation tax, income tax to be looking at losing.

Get your head out of your arse.

You say it's different to what we joined in the 70s, that's the only thing you've got friggin right! We've been shaping it for 40 years, it's us who wanted Eastern Europe to join, we pushed that.
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Consequences like:
Ford taking an EU loan to move production from the UK to a non-EU country;
The UK having to ask permission from the EU before it could take any action to help the Port Talbot steel works.

Some of the biggest financial losses are as a result of Government NOT taking action to get big businesses paying the correct amount of taxes in this country. I'm not going to bore you with reams of statistics, but some of the names mentioned in recent times are the likes of Amazon, Starbucks and so on. What it is, is the top strata taking care of themselves, while attacking the ordinary people of the country whenever they can (bedroom tax, cuts in disability benefits, etc.). Wake up and see who the REAL people who screw the UK are!

I suggest you take your own head out of your arse!
 
jal123 said:
Labour strongholds in working class areas mostly voted leave, but then the leader of the Labour Party has campaigned for it all his life.

Unfortunately for sensible people they'll both get what they want, for different reasons. saint Jeremy isn't a racist but the majority of people in working class areas who voted leave are.

I mean they think this vote was to 'send them back home'


Of course highly intelligent men like Farage preyed on this, and got what they wanted.
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Old Blue 2 said:
Consequences like:
Ford taking an EU loan to move production from the UK to a non-EU country;
The UK having to ask permission from the EU before it could take any action to help the Port Talbot steel works.

Some of the biggest financial losses are as a result of Government NOT taking action to get big businesses paying the correct amount of taxes in this country. I'm not going to bore you with reams of statistics, but some of the names mentioned in recent times are the likes of Amazon, Starbucks and so on. What it is, is the top strata taking care of themselves, while attacking the ordinary people of the country whenever they can (bedroom tax, cuts in disability benefits, etc.). Wake up and see who the REAL people who screw the UK are!

I suggest you take your own head out of your arse!
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The real people who are screwing the Country isn't the EU, mate. You've literally described the Tory government in your last rant.


Give your head a wobble, play some driving rock covers in a boozer full of daily mail readers and sit back made up with yourself that 'I'm alright, jack'

(That's your quote, not mine)
 
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