Current Affairs EU In or Out

[johnnydawg68]

All the pro brexit folk on here have had arguments for how the markets might work after brexit, how immigration might work, visas, fisheries, tourism etc. etc. but not one has had anything to say about how to resolve the situation of the land border. In fact they voted for brexit knowing full well that there is no solution to the land border issue. They just didn't think it was a big deal. Short sighted if you ask me.

Completely. They just didn't care. It was the first thing I thought about though since my educational background was Irish history.

As it goes for everything in life, stuff be complicated. We do not live in a black and white world.

 

[johnnydawg68]

All the pro brexit folk on here have had arguments for how the markets might work after brexit, how immigration might work, visas, fisheries, tourism etc. etc. but not one has had anything to say about how to resolve the situation of the land border. In fact they voted for brexit knowing full well that there is no solution to the land border issue. They just didn't think it was a big deal. Short sighted if you ask me.

The answer is a united Ireland.

 

[Ruairi77]

The answer is a united Ireland.

haha, not while the DUP decide whether the government stands or falls.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

All the pro brexit folk on here have had arguments for how the markets might work after brexit, how immigration might work, visas, fisheries, tourism etc. etc. but not one has had anything to say about how to resolve the situation of the land border. In fact they voted for brexit knowing full well that there is no solution to the land border issue. They just didn't think it was a big deal. Short sighted if you ask me.

Some of us simply don't see the Irish question as our top priority. I for one would be glad to see a united Ireland that no longer concerned us and let them sort their own problems out but I wouldn't envy the person given the job of telling that to the Loyalists.

 

[Ruairi77]

Some of us simply don't see the Irish question as our top priority. I for one would be glad to see a united Ireland that no longer concerned us and let them sort their own problems out but I wouldn't envy the person given the job of telling that to the Loyalists.

thats a fair point about priorities, I guess what I'm getting at is that your priorities were/are not achievable without finding a viable solution to the border issue. No one was telling you this as far as I can see.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

thats a fair point about priorities, I guess what I'm getting at is that your priorities were/are not achievable without finding a viable solution to the border issue. No one was telling you this as far as I can see.

I simply don't care about it mate. Ireland should of been united a long time ago imo and i fail to see what we gain by keeping Northan Ireland other then an endless headache. If Brexit results in a unified Ireland then it's a bonus for me. I think it high time we had a referendum in Northan Ireland on that exact issue and see the outcome. The UK and everything that goes with it like the Scots chose or Independence to chose to do as they want.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I simply don't care about it mate. Ireland should of been united a long time ago imo and i fail to see what we gain by keeping Northan Ireland other then an endless headache. If Brexit results in a unified Ireland then it's a bonus for me. I think it high time we had a referendum in Northan Ireland on that exact issue and see the outcome. The UK and everything that goes with it like the Scots chose or Independence to chose to do as they want.

Yeah mate stuff Northern Ireland and the entire peace process, leave em to it eh, stuff em

What a truly stupid comment that is

 

[Old Blue 2]

Given that we're kinda pressed for time, and you (and others) made it quite clear that leave campaigners weren't required to have a thought out plan whilst campaigning to leave, are you happy with the progress the government has made in that time?

Let me correct you (once again...!), Bruce. Jeez, you do post some crap about what I have supposed to have posted in this thread!!!

First of all, there is a difference between the 'Leave' and 'Remain' campaigns on the one hand, and the Government of the day on the other.

The Referendum was a cross-party event, as you well know Bruce.

It was the responsibility of the two campaigns to put the case forward for their side. NOTHING MORE.

It was the responsibility of the Government to implement the decision made by the population of the UK on 23rd June last year. The roles of the two campaigns ceased at midnight 22nd June. There was no executive responsibility for either campaign to come up with an implementation plan, should the vote be to leave the EU. Their role was to campaign - period. Cameron, as PM, failed lamentably in his duties in not having any kind implementation plan in place or the preparation thereof in progress on 24th June when the result was announced. He resigned.

The matters of campaigning and implementation are two separate and distinct things - the one cannot cut across the other (although Cameron used £9 million of taxpayer's money to try to do so). You do not seem to be able to grasp this simple premise, Bruce...

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Cameron, as PM, failed lamentably in his duties in not having any kind implementation plan in place

Because he though the remain vote was going to piss it.

 

[roydo]

Let me correct you (once again...!), Bruce. Jeez, you do post some crap about what I have supposed to have posted in this thread!!!

First of all, there is a difference between the 'Leave' and 'Remain' campaigns on the one hand, and the Government of the day on the other.

The Referendum was a cross-party event, as you well know Bruce.

It was the responsibility of the two campaigns to put the case forward for their side. NOTHING MORE.

It was the responsibility of the Government to implement the decision made by the population of the UK on 23rd June last year. The roles of the two campaigns ceased at midnight 22nd June. There was no executive responsibility for either campaign to come up with an implementation plan, should the vote be to leave the EU. Their role was to campaign - period. Cameron, as PM, failed lamentably in his duties in not having any kind implementation plan in place or the preparation thereof in progress on 24th June when the result was announced. He resigned.

The matters of campaigning and implementation are two separate and distinct things - the one cannot cut across the other (although Cameron used £9 million of taxpayer's money to try to do so). You do not seem to be able to grasp this simple premise, Bruce...

Going well though aint it?

Great we can now make all our own rules and that.

And that £350m a week for the NHS looks just brilliant.

Massive and utterly stupid cock up from start to finish.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Let me correct you (once again...!), Bruce. Jeez, you do post some crap about what I have supposed to have posted in this thread!!!

First of all, there is a difference between the 'Leave' and 'Remain' campaigns on the one hand, and the Government of the day on the other.

The Referendum was a cross-party event, as you well know Bruce.

It was the responsibility of the two campaigns to put the case forward for their side. NOTHING MORE.

It was the responsibility of the Government to implement the decision made by the population of the UK on 23rd June last year. The roles of the two campaigns ceased at midnight 22nd June. There was no executive responsibility for either campaign to come up with an implementation plan, should the vote be to leave the EU. Their role was to campaign - period. Cameron, as PM, failed lamentably in his duties in not having any kind implementation plan in place or the preparation thereof in progress on 24th June when the result was announced. He resigned.

The matters of campaigning and implementation are two separate and distinct things - the one cannot cut across the other (although Cameron used £9 million of taxpayer's money to try to do so). You do not seem to be able to grasp this simple premise, Bruce...

You didn't answer my question on how you think things have gone since the vote. It's been well over a year now. I've grown to appreciate from many years on here that when people don't really have a decent response to something, they tend not to say anything, which I suppose is indicative in itself.

 

[peteblue]

Spot the difference

Says it all..............

Yep, the EU putting all their arguments on the table, the UK showing nothing for the cameras, first class negotiating principles....the real stuff is hidden under the table......

 

[peteblue]

The answer is a united Ireland.

No problem with a united Ireland if that is what the people want, and then don't expect the rest of us to sort out any 'difficulties'.......

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Going well though aint it?

Great we can now make all our own rules and that.

And that £350m a week for the NHS looks just brilliant.

Massive and utterly stupid cock up from start to finish.

We're taking back control, only no Leave voter can seemingly define what that is exactly, barring immigration.

Laws - which ones can't you wait to get rid of when we leave? Errrrrrrmmmmmmmm

We can trade with the World - and we can't already then? brilliant

 

[peteblue]

You didn't answer my question on how you think things have gone since the vote. It's been well over a year now. I've grown to appreciate from many years on here that when people don't really have a decent response to something, they tend not to say anything, which I suppose is indicative in itself.

That'll explain why you didn't respond to my post regarding the German surplus in trade with the UK......