Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

I wonder how many Brits go live in Bulgaria, Poland, Romania every year and how many come here from those countries.

There is a massive imbalance and it could not be allowed to go on, we in this country have gone through 5 years of austerity to get the economy performing at the top of European countries table, it's not right anyone could hop onto a plane and come over reap the rewards of our efforts to restore our economy.

16% of the workforce are foreign. They've had as much of a say in our economy as anyone else. Given that I think 80% of new jobs since 2010 have been created in London though, I'm sure you'll be in full agreement that we should strictly veto any scruff from the rest of the country that wants to come and work here. Only the best and all that. Show us your qualifications.

 

[Caso01]

There were pencils in the booth

No need to ruin my gag mate, took all morning to come up with that.

 

[tsubaki]

Honest question. Why is it Corbyn's fault? The Tories used the referendum as a vote winner for the last election and Dave was unable to win, thus commiting political suicide. How is that Labours fault when they wouldn't have given the people the choice?

Everything is Corbyn's fault according to the PLP - though this, where his euroscepticism accurately represented the views of the Labour core vote and the main criticism of him seems to be that he refused to lie to the electorate, is one of the more absurd examples of the phenomenon.

I just hope he hangs on to the vote in the wider party, wins it, and the purges the PLP.

 

[orly]

No need to ruin my gag mate, took all morning to come up with that.

Ah, you should have just used that joke when it was doing the rounds for all the over voting / contract extension related jokes.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/lukaku.67134/page-959#post-3596643

All morning

 

[toffee matt]

Honest question. Why is it Corbyn's fault? The Tories used the referendum as a vote winner for the last election and Dave was unable to win, thus commiting political suicide. How is that Labours fault when they wouldn't have given the people the choice?

Don't think he made a difference either way Tbh.

Traditional White Working Class labour voters were going for Leave whoever the leader was

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Roughly speaking, there are ~2 million EU migrants living in the UK and ~2 million UK citizens living in other parts of the EU. Granted, most of those UK citizens will be living in the more affluent EU countries, but it's hardly a massive imbalance.

It would be a massive generalisation to say that most EU migrants are doing low-skilled work whereas most UK workers in the EU are more skilled, but there's probably some truth in that. I guess what we'll find out in the next few years is whether or not the gap in low-skilled work that restricting EU migrants will bring will then be taken up by UK nationals.

All evidence suggests that European migrants are more likely to be degree holders than the native population. They're also less likely to have dependents, hence why they are net-contributors to the treasury.

 

[The Blue Watch]

I wonder how many Brits go live in Bulgaria, Poland, Romania every year and how many come here from those countries.

There is a massive imbalance and it could not be allowed to go on, we in this country have gone through 5 years of austerity to get the economy performing at the top of European countries table, it's not right anyone could hop onto a plane and come over reap the rewards of our efforts to restore our economy.

The people in this country are sick of it, and have spoken loud and clear, enough is enough, we can now be like the USA and Australia, cherry pick who we would like to come here, that's not racism, it's the correct way to run your countries immigration.

It comes down to luck of the draw doesn't it, you have it a lot easier than them. Unless you're suggesting the average Brit works harder than the average Southern European person. You have no clue what the people in those countries have been through, through little fault of their own.

The people in this country should be kinder, but the lesson they're about to learn will live in the memory of a few good generations to come.

 

[dandydan]

Don't think he made a difference either way Tbh.

Traditional White Working Class labour voters were going for Leave whoever the leader was

But if he went leave he could have come across as representing traditional labour voters against Cameron and his own red Tories. Now the working class just see him as no better than Cameron.

 

[Caso01]

Ah, you should have just used that joke when it was doing the rounds for all the over voting / contract extension related jokes.

Soz mate,

Will trawl through every post on every thread before I post in future.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Mary Hen gave a very powerful speech earlier, reminding the EU that Scotland voted to Remain and that a second independence referendum should now be pursued. Found time to thank David Cameron for his service, Nicola really is quite the impressive statesperson.

I think the Scots will leave this time as well, should they be given the referendum

 

[orly]

Soz mate,

Will trawl through every post on every thread before I post in future.

No need mate, that's the joy of the search function

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/lukaku.67134/page-959#post-3596643
Godspeed

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

All evidence suggests that European migrants are more likely to be degree holders than the native population. They're also less likely to have dependents, hence why they are net-contributors to the treasury.

DON'T USE FACTS. It's not allowed.

 

[tsubaki]

But if he went leave he could have come across as representing traditional labour voters against Cameron and his own red Tories. Now the working class just see him as no better than Cameron.

I don't think that is the case - his decision not to share a platform with them meant that people were saying they didn't know what the Labour position was (which was more down to the media not covering it), not that they saw him as akin to Dave.

 

[Toast]

I think the Scots will leave this time as well, should they be given the referendum

Nah.
They will bottle it again.

 

[toffee matt]

But if he went leave he could have come across as representing traditional labour voters against Cameron and his own red Tories. Now the working class just see him as no better than Cameron.

Labour leadership has been far apart from many labour voters for a long long time..