Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Tubey said:
... and if he had any knowledge on the subject, he'd have known this would have been the case ahead of Brexit. But he didn't, similar to how people thought we'd be able to leave and have single market access etc.
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No it was repeated many times even in the 9 million brochure, by the Remain side to leave the EU you have to leave the single market - now we have to renegotiate parts of the single market without the freedom of movement like other outside countries and many other issues that make us an independent country!
 
Joey66 said:
No it was repeated many times even in the 9 million brochure, by the Remain side to leave the EU you have to leave the single market - now we have to renegotiate parts of the single market without the freedom of movement like other outside countries and many other issues that make us an independent country!
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We do not renegotiate the single market in any way, because we cannot be in it without freedom of movement - pure and simple.

We can negotiate a trade deal which gives access to it, but good luck with that - it'll take years and we'll be bummed viciously by the EU on the terms, simply because they are in a position of power on it and have no interest in bending over for us and encouraging further secession.

Leaving it is an act of economic self-harm whatever way you slice it.

But you don't want to acknowledge this - you'll see it play out soon though and be 'shocked' by it for some reason.
 
Tubey said:
We do not renegotiate the single market in any way, because we cannot be in it without freedom of movement - pure and simple.

We can negotiate a trade deal which gives access to it, but good luck with that - it'll take years and we'll be bummed viciously by the EU on the terms, simply because they are in a position of power on it and have no interest in bending over for us and encouraging further secession.

Leaving it is an act of economic self-harm whatever way you slice it.

But you don't want to acknowledge this - you'll see it play out soon though and be 'shocked' by it for some reason.
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It'll be the Europeans fault, and therefore we were right to leave them coz they hate us.
 
Tubey said:
We do not renegotiate the single market in any way, because we cannot be in it without freedom of movement - pure and simple.

We can negotiate a trade deal which gives access to it, but good luck with that - it'll take years and we'll be bummed viciously by the EU on the terms, simply because they are in a position of power on it and have no interest in bending over for us and encouraging further secession.

Leaving it is an act of economic self-harm whatever way you slice it.

But you don't want to acknowledge this - you'll see it play out soon though and be 'shocked' by it for some reason.
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I won't be shocked as that's why we voted OUT as a country it will be bumpy, but you will soon realise there is life outside the EU - I feel we will have to pay for some aspects of the single market, but have our sovienty back a price worth paying in a organisation that's failing- Yes!
 
Joey66 said:
Did we ?
We are leaving an organisation that is in financial ruin growth wise overall - why stay in a club like that?
We are leaving negotions will be hard as the organisation is intrangesent, and dies not move quickly due to the berocractic structure we want to leave!
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Of course it is...

We put in around 0.4% GDP and get 4-5% GDP back, giving us full access to a £20trillion market. But yes, it's ruinous to our growth, why not.
 
Tubey said:
Of course it is...

We put in around 0.4% GDP and get 4-5% GDP back, giving us full access to a £20trillion market. But yes, it's ruinous to our growth, why not.
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It's that good we voted out......
It had more negatives than pluses - that's why against all odds Out won, surprised me, but outside we can trade world wide , and the EU needs us more than you think!
 
Joey66 said:
It's that good we voted out......
It had more negatives than pluses - that's why against all odds Out won, surprised me, but outside we can trade world wide , and the EU needs us more than you think!
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The fact that the EU doesn't allow it's members to trade worldwide without having compulsory tarriffs is IMO one of it's most ridiculous aspects. And people are saying we had sovereignity under the EU! Doesn't look like it here does it?
 
I have visited Europe every year for the past 35 years, went to futher education classes to improve my French. Handy, I found I could talk to French people and guess what? They despise Paris and its citizens with a passion.
So, I am a good European but I have no time for the EU. This is a corrupt, disfunctional and anti-democratic organisation. Tell me where else there could be a private or public organisation which could go 16 years without having it's accounts signed off by it's auditors. Nowhere.

And as for Juncker, the unelected EU boss from Luxemburg, the size of Coventry, threatening the people of the UK? No more to say.
 
bluecol said:
I have visited Europe every year for the past 35 years, went to futher education classes to improve my French. Handy, I found I could talk to French people and guess what? They despise Paris and its citizens with a passion.
So, I am a good European but I have no time for the EU. This is a corrupt, disfunctional and anti-democratic organisation. Tell me where else there could be a private or public organisation which could go 16 years without having it's accounts signed off by it's auditors. Nowhere.

And as for Juncker, the unelected EU boss from Luxemburg, the size of Coventry, threatening the people of the UK? No more to say.
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You must be one of those unintelligent racists I've been hearing about on the BBC........
 
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Tubey said:
We do not renegotiate the single market in any way, because we cannot be in it without freedom of movement - pure and simple.

We can negotiate a trade deal which gives access to it, but good luck with that - it'll take years and we'll be bummed viciously by the EU on the terms, simply because they are in a position of power on it and have no interest in bending over for us and encouraging further secession.

Leaving it is an act of economic self-harm whatever way you slice it.

But you don't want to acknowledge this - you'll see it play out soon though and be 'shocked' by it for some reason.
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Pure crap. The EU have no position of power. They sell more to us than we do to them. We provide them with a nuclear shield together with the USA and France. We sit on the UN Security Council and have longstanding relations with all the countries in the commonwealth. The USA, Australia, Canada and others have all said that we will be at the front of any trade deals. Millions of German and French jobs rely upon U.K. Trade. If we go to WTO rules we make money. You are grossly overestimating the EU position and grossly underestimating the UK position......
 
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