One upside, at least Ireland might be a nation once again, a nation once again.
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neil999
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farage was saying he was gonna challenge the vote if it was a close remain vote...hmmmmmmmmmmm
snap gen election, labour say they will reverse referendum result in manifesto?...fanciful i guess
evertonfootballclub
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Beautiful place Dublin.I've started the ball rolling this morning...Was even looking at houses over there earlier this week. Very downhearted and disillusioned today, the thought of handing even more power to the sack of **** Tories and those to the right of Genghis Khan sickens me. Plus I've got friends who I know will lose their jobs.
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I think we need to rethink the merits of universal suffrage. It clearly isn't working. We need to look into some kind of voting licenses which are only granted upon passing certain criteria. Sun, Mail readers, UKIP sympathisers etc shouldn't have the right to vote.
The thing is, a good chunk of Labour voters seemed to go 'leave' too. I would imagine the party with the most consistent remain vote (other than SNP) was probably the LibDems, but they're kind of irrelevant these days.
If Labour did get in and reversed the referendum result, wouldn't that then be a slap in the face for democracy considering the majority voted to leave.
Ashtonian
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Aye BUT........
a potential for labour to cater to the 48% who voted leave and perhaps swing them over to their side ahead of any election who were not already labour supporters.
neil999
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not if they were voted in to do that...but yeah kind of! never happen anyways..
Blues, we should close this and ask;
However, we do try an apply some pragmatism and I appreciate it's an emotive subject but please;
Don't encourage the moderators to close these threads because you can't keep it civil...
However, we do try an apply some pragmatism and I appreciate it's an emotive subject but please;
- Keep it civil. By that, no insults.
Don't encourage the moderators to close these threads because you can't keep it civil...
As I understand it, it isn't a legally binding event at all. We've basically asked the country a survey. I've been thinking about this a bit, in the same way that a minority party has effectively achieved it's objective without having the power to do it, I wonder whether there will be a representative movement for the millions of British citizens who don't want to leave. If this had been a narrow win for Remain, there's no way they would have gone 'fair enough then' and packed it in. Why should the Remain side?
There's a risk of the Tories veering right and being extremely socially conservative, and Labour veering left and being very fiscally conservative, with both groups essentially blaming others for the problems of the electorate. That there is a road paved to hell if ever there was one.
I always got the feeling that Corbyn's heart didn't really seem to be in the campaign, and he came across at times as sounding anti - EU without probably realising it, maybe the Corbyn followers picked up on this and voted out.
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Have barely dipped into this thread, but +1 on this.
All racists want to leave, but not everyone who wants to leave is racist. If the Stay can't figure that out and treat everyone who wants to leave in an equally condescending offensive manner, then it just makes them more determined.
Hong Kong Phooey
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No good, very good.
Well there's three months before concrete actions need to be made, and you'd imagine that as those three months are going to be a leadership campaign, then they'll need to be a lot more concrete facts laid down as to just how this might work.
That in itself might lift the scales from peoples eyes as it will have to be a whole lot more watertight than most of the waffle spouted during this referendum.
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