roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Maybe. Just think its a bit nuts to lob our what we did have, for better or worse, and replace it with something we might have, for better or worse.
Deffo a Kylie song in there, nearly.
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Maybe. Just think its a bit nuts to lob our what we did have, for better or worse, and replace it with something we might have, for better or worse.
Deffo a Kylie song in there, nearly.
The Cowboy
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'darling, I've drawn up a comprehensive list of how we will divide the property, plus what I believe to be a suitable custody arrangement. Now, if you're ok with it, I'd like a divorce'
Doesn't work, does it?
peteblue
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Of course you will.......
I've said before on here some of how we have voted might depend on how risk adverse we all are.
Those who are most risk averse would be more likely to have voted remain whereas those (like me) who are more happy to risk a bit of chaos and uncertainty for what might be were more likely to vote leave.
Neither is better than the other - we are just different personality types!
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Aye, probably a bit in that.
I looked at it as part economic, (no brainer imo), and part chatting to folk on my round for a few weeks. Liked the ones who wanted to stay, more than those who wanted to leave.
No reflection on any posters in here btw.
AndyC
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Serious question Esk, on a scale of 1 to 100, because 1 to 10 is too narrow... What chance do you genuinely feel there is of Brexit being stopped?
Don't need to go into the how it could be stopped, simply interested in what realistic chance you think there is of either a stoppage or reversal from the May government?
I'd probably agree that I find ordinary "remainers" more pleasant on the whole than grizzled Brexiteers like myself.
They are often more youthful and idealistic.
That said there are many different reasons people have for voting Brexit (or remain) and the more I have thought about it (and my time on this thread has helped me do this)
the more reasons and clarity of thought I have found for voting Brexit and what I have tried to do on here is not just childishly try to win the argument (which I admit I have - like most of us - done to some extent) but also to challenge the way some of the assumption's about why Remain is more benevolent, internationalist, socialist and positive and non-predudiced, is (IMO) not so.
I am sad about the effect on Ireland though and I hope a workable solution can be found that does not inconvenience people too much or lead to conflict or opening up of wounds
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Not answering for Esk, but imo, not a chance. Not without a constitutional crisis, which is not good. And unlikely.
What that looks like, in 5 years time? Not a scooby.
Referendum. Tick
Parliament vote. Tick
Terms. Er.
The Esk
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Less than 5% chance sadly, and that's being optimistic.
There would have to be an enormous reversal of opinion based on fact rather than how the referendum was determined. I listened to the quality (or rather lack of) of the debate in the House of Commons yesterday - there's no scrutiny, not even the flicker of a thought as to whether this is in the best interests of the country. The House of Lords will provide greater scrutiny which I shall welcome but I seriously doubt given the spineless behaviour of MPs that it can be turned over.
extremely regrettable and something which will cost future generations greatly.
What's wrong with that - spot on I remember her the morning Remain lost - to say she has backtracked is a understatement - Oh we have to listen to the people from now on my arsp!
The further she goes on the back benches the better imo happy birthday to her 70 years old with a face lift so working class hey!
ken clarke was the only tory tory wise to go against the government, the very same guy who nearly took us into the EURO !
here she is -
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roydo
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Never said they were.
AndyC
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Exactly this... It was not properly thought through, and absolutely no contingency plans made in case the vote went the wrong way from Cameron's' perspective.
AndyC
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Regrettably Esk, I think those last seven words are going to be all too painfully true.
I know but that is a common charge of many remainers to brexiteers. I get it a fair bit among work colleagues and even labour councillors here in London.
We'll have to wait and see but I'll wager that in 10 years time we'll be doing better than most of the EU countries
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