Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Just a reminder that leaving the Customs Union will cost an estimated £25 bn a year and require a 37% increase in trade with our 10 largest non European trading partners to put us back in the position we are currently in.

The customs union that stops ua making tariff free trade agreements with the rest of the world? (if I have my facts correct?)
 
The customs union that stops ua making tariff free trade agreements with the rest of the world? (if I have my facts correct?)

The customs union which negotiates on behalf of the EU as a whole.

Anybody who has experience of cross border trade will tell you the advantages of the customs union, how it reduces costs, time and encourages trade between members. As in my comment estimated costs of £25bn a year if we leave the customs union something which would require a 37% increase in trade with our top 10 non European partners just to level.

Our Chancellor is very keen to stay within the customs union with good reason.
 
Don't see any problem with this myself, but supposedly there are plenty who did see a problem with the name of the shop (because of Brexit?) the owner was called racist, and his shop boycotted, his shop sells a range of British themed products.

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If you were blind after a three month campaign from both sides tv debates etc etc it's hard to see IMO, but the OUT vote won it's not their fault DC had no plans he's doing a talk on Brexit £2000 per minute very nice for him and the fools who have paid to hear it Blair my 2 here we go!
 
The key point is the actual concept of immigration and border control. How you do it is not a key point. It's something you figure out.
No, how you do it is a key point for Ireland. When I'm going to a football match, going to shops etc, how am I distinguished from a Pole or a Lithuanian crossing the border?

Checklist of shopping list, money, car keys and passport before I leave the house...
 
No, how you do it is a key point for Ireland. When I'm going to a football match, going to shops etc, how am I distinguished from a Pole or a Lithuanian crossing the border?

Checklist of shopping list, money, car keys and passport before I leave the house...
Every action stems from a decision. In some cases, the action drives the decision. In some cases, the decision has to be taken first, then the actions follow.

In this case, the actions were so numerous and complex it would've been ludicrous to have expected them to be figured out before the decision was made. Not to mention even if they had figured it all out, there could be loads more knock-on things to figure out that only became apparent after they started the process.
 
Just a reminder that leaving the Customs Union will cost an estimated £25 bn a year and require a 37% increase in trade with our 10 largest non European trading partners to put us back in the position we are currently in.

Bearing in mind we are not allowed to have any tarrif free trade with non EU countries while we are in the EU I reckon we will smash that 37% increase figure many times over once we are out...
 
Of course. No problem with the actual decision to hold a vote.

Just a tad concerned that we seem to have ended up in a blind alley, being led by blind MPs.

Was always going to be a messy and complex divorce and IMO there is no shame in how our party in power have been dealing with it (infact I am quite impressed with how the PM has been navigating this challenging issue)
 
Every action stems from a decision. In some cases, the action drives the decision. In some cases, the decision has to be taken first, then the actions follow.

In this case, the actions were so numerous and complex it would've been ludicrous to have expected them to be figured out before the decision was made. Not to mention even if they had figured it all out, there could be loads more knock-on things to figure out that only became apparent after they started the process.
I agree with all of that. However, the border has defined Irish politics for nearly 100 years. We have been at war over it, some still are. While it may have have been an unintended consequence of Brexit, it has brought the border question right back to the centre of Irish politics.

While my country has moved on, Stormont is administering some form of Government, the prospect of border posts really isn't a knock on event for us.
 
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