Current Affairs EU In or Out

[The Esk]

Never did I use the word Invaded ?????????????are you haveing a competition of Googling with Bruce?
that does not answer my question of any immigrant particularly the EU of the on cost of yes they pay in to our economy no arguments there - the cost of many benefits they claim record levels the size of a small town is not sustainable @ The Esk I never stated we were being invaded you have chosen those words watch the daily politics first ten minutes yesterday for the real figures 170,000 came without jobs ?

The fact is people don't like them Farage was correct about Romanians and Bulgarians love him or hate him he seems to get things correct - brexit- trump and an invasion of new EU nationals last January-

 

[Joey66]

not invaded is it ?
and I was quoting Nigel Farage ok! he predicted it and was told to stop scaremongering yet another thing Farage gets right!
By the wayyou still have not answered my benifits question of on cost for immigration by the way that chart answers nothing?

 

[JonS]

I don't think yesterdays vote in indicative of a massive swing to Remain. However I also don't think it's a major crisis for Labour and do think there's a lot of pressure building on May.

The 2015 election can be summarised in one phrase; the tories used the Lib Dems as a human shield and the devoured the carcus. It was a fantastically astute electoral victory, largely because they did so against the odds and against the wider swing. There was no great swing to the governments policies as Tories have you believe, but rather one side of the government's vote collapsed and the Tories exploited the situation successfully.

Much of what people like in the Tories under Cameron was a much softer image. May's hard turn is not going to sit well with their more southern, affluent vote base. This can be seen in Richmond and Witney where they were ran very close. Two very safe seats with the Libs Dems having resurgence. In affluent Southern areas which generally voted Remain the Ljb Dems will provide a serious opposition to the Conservatives and I can see them withering support. I also think they will continue to lose support in the marginal areas to UKIP. Essentially losing votes to their right and left.

Yes Labour lost a deposit. However given the way UK electoral voting works it is largely irrelevant. Witney and Richmond will never be won by Labour. Their success will be dependant on how well they can hold votes in the north against UKIP and how well they can attract primarily Remain and some Leave voters in urban areas in the South. Labour voters voting for Lib Dems should hardly be a surprise, most Labour members and voters voted Remain yet they have a leader who wants to Leave.

I think the political map will now change. The Tories will be the Leave party in the South fighting off primarily Lib Dems. While in the North Labour will be fighting off UKIP. Who do you vote for anyway Joey? I had you down as a UKIP fella but you always seem interested in Labour?

Richmond as an area or constituency is about as far removed from the rest of the country as you can get.

 

[Joey66]

Farron just admited if we got a vote on the deal and we voted agaist it he would want us to stay in as a result.
Even when pressed, in that case the EU would give us the worsed deal possible to ensure we stayed in then.
He just said he would want us to stay.
Typical EU animal lets vote till we get the answer we want, and he calls himself a liberal.
Dont know about anybody else but its making me want to just say we are out, no deal other than international agreements . definitely hardening my views .

Some nice quiet lady on QT last night stated she felt like punching Dim Farron on the TV when he was on getting booed last week!lol
how dare he tell her she did not know what she was voting for in the referendum he is supposed to be a democrat????????????????????

 

[edge]

Some nice quiet lady on QT last night stated she felt like punching Dim Farron on the TV when he was on getting booed last week!lol
how dare he tell her she did not know what she was voting for in the referendum he is sup[posed to be a democrat????????????????????

On a plus point a lib dem has just said we should move Parliament north so not all bad.

 

[Joey66]

On a plus point a lib dem has just said we should move Parliament north so not all bad.

The miles they must cover to have a meeting?lol

 

[edge]

The miles they must cover to have a meeting?lol

Bit of a mad idea in the current climate, but I would broadly support it just to wind the metropolitan shower up.

 

[neil999]

yes they are upgrading their four by four /office to a mini bus/office for 10 of them wow and Labour lost their deposit as Labour voters backed a LIB DEMlol

Was a joke like...

 

[Joey66]

Bit of a mad idea in the current climate, but I would broadly support it just to wind the metropolitan shower up.

no way will they listen to 10 mps who want to deny us a democratic vote !

 

[Joey66]

I'm calling it now.

We will go to the EU with a Norway like proposal...market access - paying 'some' cash in - free movement.

EU-Lite.

Referendum in vain.

wont happen May would get voted out too much - see what happens at the weekend the EU may come tumbling down then!

 

[Tubey]

Never did I use the word Invaded ?????????????

an invasion of new EU nationals last January

not invaded is it ?

Good grief.

@The Esk, why are you bothering?

 

[peteblue]

Hahahahaha.........what goes around......



SARAH OLNEY was pulled off-air by her own press officer after a car crash radio interview following her Richmond Park by-election victory.

The disastrous interview was bizarrely cut short after talkRADIO host Julia Hartley-Brewer tore into the newly-elected MP.

Ms Olney was put on the spot after Hartley-Brewer mocked her party’s desire for a second Brexit referendum.

She began the interview by asking when the second by-election was, in reference to the Lib Dems' desire for another referendum on the EU.

A clearly taken aback Ms Olney replied: “I was very clear in my campaign exactly what I was standing for and the voters have returned me to parliament with a very clear mandate.”

Hartley-Brewer then asked the 39-year-old whether the fact she had won less than 50% of the vote really entitled her to claim a mandate – again another dig at Remainers who argue the result of the EU referendum was not clear.

“In what way have you got a mandate from the people of Richmond?” she said.

Ms Olney replied: “I campaigned on that issue in this by-election and I won a clear majority of the votes last night.”

Hartley-Brewer thundered that voters knew exactly what they were voting for with Brexit and the potential for leaving the single market.

“There was not a clear manifesto set up,” the Lib Dem replied.

“We voted for a departure not for a destination. There was no clear manifesto for what would happen to our membership of the single market.”

At this point Hartley-Brewer, a former political editor and columnist for the Sunday Express, erupted: “Yes there was! The Remain campaign said we were going to leave if we voted out.

“Every single member of the Remain campaign said a vote to leave was a vote to leave the single market.”

At this point Ms Olney went silent before an aide came on the line to say she had to leave.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

no way will they listen to 10 mps who want to deny us a democratic vote !

We've been driven off a cliff by a party with 1 mp Joe.

 

[Joey66]

Good grief.

@The Esk, why are you bothering?

I was clearly mentioning Nigel Farage read it properly ok!

 

[Joey66]

We've been driven off a cliff by a party with 1 mp Joe.

UKIP were not nominated as the official leave campaign Bruce so they got 4 million voted in the GE more votes than all the SNP in parliament more than your Lib Dems Bruce!
Just the system that gives them one MP !