Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

How does that cover you claiming "it may just explain your hostility to those that voted to leave........"

One can be hostile to the idea without being hostile to the person expressing the view or in this case voting in a certain way. As I said earlier point out my hostility to any poster supporting Brexit.

I did not mention the word 'poster'.......

 

[The Esk]

Esk just I played the BBC DP today here are the figures quoted -
33500 net migration found in June 2016
176000 got jobs
164000 were students
127000 not in the workplace
Romanians take up 1 in 10 jobs so the slating and warnings of Nigel Farage were incorrect his prediction came realistic!
Under the EU human rights act these EU citizens under free movement can not be deported !
those were the absolute figures quoted by Andrew Neil today!

Go onto the ONS site Joey and check there.

Also

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-show?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

 

[bflefc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38089984

I imagine even the machines will be called Juan or something, just to annoy you

I couldn't give two hoots what the names are, because I've nothing against anyone of any name, any nationality or any creed.

I hope that doesn't serve to annoy you

 

[davmaher]

Esk just I played the BBC DP today here are the figures quoted -
33500 net migration found in June 2016
176000 got jobs
164000 were students
127000 not in the workplace
Romanians take up 1 in 10 jobs so the slating and warnings of Nigel Farage were incorrect his prediction came realistic!
Under the EU human rights act these EU citizens under free movement can not be deported !
those were the absolute figures quoted by Andrew Neil today!

I'm assuming the first figure you quoted should be 335,000, which is the figure quoted on the BBC web-site. According to your other figures, 340,000 either got jobs or were students. This is 5,000 more than the total, so not sure where you get the 127,000 not in the workplace comes from. I must be missing something.

 

[Joey66]

I'm assuming the first figure you quoted should be 335,000, which is the figure quoted on the BBC web-site. According to your other figures, 340,000 either got jobs or were students. This is 5,000 more than the total, so not sure where you get the 127,000 not in the workplace comes from. I must be missing something.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b084jjyt/daily-politics-01122016

 

[Joey66]

Go onto the ONS site Joey and check there.

Also

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-show?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

check this first ten minutes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b084jjyt/daily-politics-01122016

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Immigration is good. It increases economic growth and it fills jobs that Brits don't have the skills to do. It also drives up house prices, thus making us homeowners richer.

 

[Ratkiller]

You read right. You couldn't make some of this stuff up really, could you? Some busineses are being cringeworthy in their attempts to avoid having to sort themselves out and pay appropriate salaries to people employed on proper contracts (not zero hour slave labour nonsense). Some of these latter-day Fagins are now staring down the barrel - - and I'm delighted.

I think maybe we should stop being so cynical.
These big businesses are obviously only interested in providing these fellas with decent jobs with decent conditions.

Must give them a warm glow inside when they see statistics categorically proving beyond any doubt that at the same time as providing such a fantastic work opportunity they're also net benefitting the 'economy'.

They're not really bosses, they're more like trade unions.

 

[Joey66]

Immigration is good. It increases economic growth and it fills jobs that Brits don't have the skills to do. It also drives up house prices, thus making us homeowners richer.

Far too many of our school leavers sent down the academic route hence skill shortages I have already made that point no way should we be short of plumbers or electricians etc when I left my 5th year with an apprenticeship it was a fantastic goal to achieve, too many being hived into subjects that do not ever lead to a job stupid subjects etc 3 years of a life they could be training in the workplace imo - that's why we are short of skilled labour imo!

 

[Ratkiller]

Immigration is good. It increases economic growth and it fills jobs that Brits don't have the skills to do. It also drives up house prices, thus making us homeowners richer.

Why have wages gone down then in real terms?

 

[davmaher]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b084jjyt/daily-politics-01122016

If you have quoted the actual numbers they used then they are wrong as they don't add up.

 

[Joey66]

If you have quoted the actual numbers they used then they are wrong as they don't add up.

I wrote the numbers down so listen to it as you are wrong!

 

[peteblue]

Interesting letter from leaders of the UK food industry in The Times today. Not sure if it's been posted previously:

MIGRANT LABOUR CALL

Sir, The result of the EU referendum presents particular challenges as well as opportunities for the UK food chain. A settlement that recognises the critical role of the UK food chain will demonstrate how Brexit can be beneficial not just for our sector but for the wider economy too. We represent the four UK farming unions and 71 leading food businesses, with a collective turnover of more than £92 billion and employing more than 925,000 people across the UK.

For our sector, maintaining tariff-free access to the EU single market is vital. It is where 75 per cent of our food exports go, so all our farming and food businesses wish to achieve this outcome. The sector needs access to EU and non-EU seasonal and permanent labour, alongside assurances that EU workers already working permanently in the UK are allowed to remain.

This access to labour is essential as it underpins the UK food chain’s timely delivery of high-quality, affordable food to consumers. We urge the government to pursue both these goals, for the benefit of the whole of society and the economy.

Mark Allen, CEO, Dairy Crest; David Potts, CEO, Wm Morrison; Mike Coupe, CEO, J Sainsbury; Tomas Pietrangeli, managing director, Arla Foods; Steve Rowe, CEO, M&S; Andrew McInnes, managing director, Müller Milk & Ingredients; Giles Turrel, CEO, Weetabix; Richard Clothier, managing director, Wyke Farms; Meurig Raymond, president, NFU; Allan Bowie, president, NFU Scotland; Barclay Bell, president, Ulster Farmers Union; Stephen James, president, NFU Cymru. Plus a further 63 food businesses

A pretty self serving plea. How does this fit in with the tale that UK unemployed don't have the skills, for farm work, food preparation or seasonal infill......it beggars belief really.....and the left wing hand wringers seem pleased about it......

 

[bflefc]

Immigration is good. It increases economic growth and it fills jobs that Brits don't have the skills to do. It also drives up house prices, thus making us homeowners richer.

Ergo, unscrupulous businesses would much prefer to pay a qualified chef from an EU country than go to the time and trouble to invest in apprenticeship or similar role-related course, including subsidising it.

 

[davmaher]

I wrote the numbers down so listen to it as you are wrong!

Have you added up the numbers yourself? Because the ones you have quoted don't add up. If I am missing something let me know.