Elstone on Summer transfer/Everton Finance/Ground Move etc TV Debate! etc.

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May well have been. I thought I heard 'Franco', but whatever he said it is definately shady and unhealthy.
Yeah, Franco was the fascist dictator, not part of the Royal family (although he made himself a regent for a while). Tricky Dicky liked him however: "General Franco was a loyal friend and ally of the United States."

/*Recommends film "Land and Freedom" by Ken Loach or books Homage to Catalonia (Orwell) or As I Walked Out One Midsummer Morning (Laurie Lee) and promptly loses Dylan his top-secret clearance*/

*Added: I far prefer Elstone to Wyness as well.
 
had to laugh at the look of panic on elstone's face when one fan had mentioned that out of 40 evertonians he knew only 2 would follow everton to kirkby

I don think I even know 40 people never mind them supporting Everton.

Do you think he meant 4 and only 2 out of them would go but said 40 to make himself look dead popular?:lol:
 
I just don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff with Everton. We are for sale, yet no one has taken us over, now all the money we have acquired/spent. Why cant we just get straight honest answers. Also just a quick point on the Lescott deal, we paid Wolves £240,000 from what we received from City. I know this as fact as a very good friend of mine Pat Mountain works for Wolves as goalkeeper coach. He's from Cardiff and I've known him for about 15 years so i take what he has told me as the truth.
 
I just don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff with Everton. We are for sale, yet no one has taken us over, now all the money we have acquired/spent. Why cant we just get straight honest answers. Also just a quick point on the Lescott deal, we paid Wolves £240,000 from what we received from City. I know this as fact as a very good friend of mine Pat Mountain works for Wolves as goalkeeper coach. He's from Cardiff and I've known him for about 15 years so i take what he has told me as the truth.

And you do have to realise how we have to take that. Over the life of this forum, we have all heard from "someone who works for the club" or knows someone who works for the club....and it turns out to be completely false. And do you really think club finances are discussed with the GK coach? May as well invite the guys in the cafeteria to sit in on financial negotiations.

We don't have to disclose any finances to the general masses, but if we did only forward 240k to Wolves, then that indicates a structured payment regime, much like the ones we are alleged to broker all the time. This is where, I believe, the point comes across as we spent 5 mill more than the money we received for Lescott.
 
And you do have to realise how we have to take that. Over the life of this forum, we have all heard from "someone who works for the club" or knows someone who works for the club....and it turns out to be completely false. And do you really think club finances are discussed with the GK coach? May as well invite the guys in the cafeteria to sit in on financial negotiations.

We don't have to disclose any finances to the general masses, but if we did only forward 240k to Wolves, then that indicates a structured payment regime, much like the ones we are alleged to broker all the time. This is where, I believe, the point comes across as we spent 5 mill more than the money we received for Lescott.


Yeah that's a fair point mate. I was best man at his wedding to Tracy a few years ago. Like i said i have been good friends with him for many years. He lives in Cardiff, in heol-y-coed, but i wont tell you what house number :D
My point is in the press it was said we gave Wolves around £2m, but in truth we passed on nowhere near that amount.
 
What i hadnt considered before mate and Cannon touched on was that if Kirkby was selected for a World Cup - its is potentialy a massive money spinner in terms of naming rights - not only is it advertiseing in the most watched leauge in the world - possibly European exposure, but also in the worlds premier compitition - used probably in billions of mediams of media throughout the world.

That may be worth potentialy a hell of a lot of wedge.

Hold on though, the WC is only at the bidding stage...never mind the selection of a ground in Kirkby as a destination!! Cannon's point was pathetic. Projecting ahead like that might be how he earns his corn advising the gullible and plain stupid, but it wont wash when c ash needs to be put on the table when Everton have to ante up to pay for a stadium fit out in the here and now.
 
Personally speaking, I thought Elstone was having a bit of a dig at GOT members, when he talked about people who took the opportunity to whinge when the fees were "undisclosed" and then did figures on the back of *** packets assuming what those "undisclosed" fees were. Obviously hit a nerve there...

To get back to safer political debates, I thought I heard Cannon referring to Real Madrid's fascist Falangist past rather than the Royal family connection, Dylan. Or maybe that was my manic-leftie hearing aid playing up there.

***Added I see Danny's using a US swear filter***


a good point he is doing much to win over supporters.(n)
 
I just don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff with Everton. We are for sale, yet no one has taken us over, now all the money we have acquired/spent. Why cant we just get straight honest answers. Also just a quick point on the Lescott deal, we paid Wolves £240,000 from what we received from City. I know this as fact as a very good friend of mine Pat Mountain works for Wolves as goalkeeper coach. He's from Cardiff and I've known him for about 15 years so i take what he has told me as the truth.

What a great name, Pat Mountain :)

And as much as i hate to disagree with anyone called Pat Mountain that seems like an awfully low figure, unless its just the first part of many overall payments to make up the total we owe them.
 
I don think I even know 40 people never mind them supporting Everton.

Do you think he meant 4 and only 2 out of them would go but said 40 to make himself look dead popular?:lol:

haha...even if he said it just to put the frighteners up elstone it seemed to work, but saying something like that is like saying to your best mate i never want to see you again, how dare you move house 2 miles up the road!!! :P
 
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