Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Man, just look at his tweets today, full of poor grammar and spelling, contradicting himself and being fact checked by his own. That's just in the past few hours, later there'll be a live satellite link-up to an anti abortion rally where his nut job base will ignore all the reports that he had an affair with a porn star when his son was 6 months old. The guys a lunatic, yet you call booker and Warren crazy. At least they can speak English.

I'm just glad he doesn't end his tweets with ........
 
Honestly I don't see how someone could like the tax plan. Repealing the individual mandate for the Affordable Care Act NEVER should have been allowed to be included in a 'tax plan'. Moreover language that defines life beginning at conception has nothing to do with taxes. It's just setting the stage for a Roe v Wade challenge.

Any fiscal conservative should also be outraged at the long term damage done to the deficit.

Adding in the direct part where folks exactly like Trump (real estate developers) benefit makes me sick to my stomach. That his policies make him richer is sickening.
 
And you're probably there thinking 'see, calling his base 'nut jobs' is why the dems are losing'. Lets see what happens in November.

It is difficult to care about deplorables enough to understand why they're deplorable, because their deplorable'ness makes them so deplorable. It's just a shame they can't vote for someone normal and then we wouldn't have to bother.
 
On the tax bill, doubling the standard deduction doesn't count for a whole lot when you abolish the personal exemptions. It's not being doubled, it's being increased by 12%. Thats if you don't have kids. Poorer families with a few kids in the most populated states are not going to like this bill. Meanwhile Kentucky is already chipping away at Medicaid.
There needs to be tax reform and a cut in corporate tax, it's just not being handled well at all. You might argue that Obamacare was the same, well, two wrongs don't make a right.
 
What success? What because the markets are stronger?

His claims about jobs being down to him have been false as have this notion that many companies have moved back because of him.

So you are happy to write of the fact that Obama was given a mess at the end of 08 and since then the country has become stronger economically and more jobs have been created each year?

Since the market crash in 08 and the resurgence of the economy once the US got back on its feet this country has been climbing out of it and has been getting stronger and stronger each year since 08.

The curve has been positive despite the GOP trying to claim Obama was ruining this country despite the facts saying other wise.

The GDP grew since 09 and between 11 to now jobs have been on the rise. Go look at the numbers

I think in 2010 75000 jobs were created but the next year it nearly doubled and kept rising every year bar one after that.

This has nothing to do with Trump although i have always believed that GDP and growth has nothing to do with presidents at all.

Unless of course it meant the laws they implemented prevented this.

Of course i agree some industries are doing better than Trump. That's because he has removed restrictions and given them carte blanche to do what they want.

Don't forget also between 2010 and 2015 we have seen a massive surge in technologies and tech companies in general.

Most times any president claims they were the game changer to me its bluster. Of course they can be credited for changing laws or adding/removing restrictions but ultimately its a confidence thing and well whats been happening as in demand for whatever it is that comes along.

Trump will have the advantage now because there a lot of new industries and expansion in certain tech fields happening right now.


Steveo companies are directly attributing some of their moves to the tax revamp. Even I take that with a grain of salt, but you're bending over backwards to sell me on your view, and whether you're right or wrong isn't really the point. I don't give Trump all or most of the credit for market surges, but I do give him some, and I certainly don't give Obama the bulk of it. What cured the economy? Obama? Trump? In truth, time, probably. And it's only temporary anyway.

But I return to my point, which is that many people are probably going to see some improvements in their personal economic life under Trump's first term. How is that not something he can put on his resume? Slashing regulations, which you may hate but many people do not, will rightfully get some credit for upticks.
 
Here's the thing though. For the first time we have someone in office where what he's "accomplishing" cannot be parsed out from the man himself. How he carries himself is an utter disgrace. Sure, there may be bits and pieces that people can argue over from a policy perspective, and by all means, we can have that discussion. But Trump is going about everything in a very divisive, hateful way.

And that should not be forgiveable

I think he's divisive. I think Obama was too. That's not really a moral equivocation, but Obama didn't like people like me. There is a chance you don't like people like me.

Trump is a buffoon. But he's a buffoon with at least some skill level, as blundering as it may be. I don't appreciate how Trump handles racial issues. But I do appreciate that unlike Mitt Romney, where everything thrown at him stuck, Trump simply doesn't care and keeps doing what he wants to do. Romney is a much better leader than Trump and a much better human being. But how did that work out for conservatives when Romney somehow got blamed for a woman dying of cancer and was drug through the mud for the horrific crime of hazing a kid in high school?

Anyway, this isn't a "Trump is the guy we need" speech. But a lot of people think that, and they've got bona fide reasons for that position.
 
Steveo companies are directly attributing some of their moves to the tax revamp. Even I take that with a grain of salt, but you're bending over backwards to sell me on your view, and whether you're right or wrong isn't really the point. I don't give Trump all or most of the credit for market surges, but I do give him some, and I certainly don't give Obama the bulk of it. What cured the economy? Obama? Trump? In truth, time, probably. And it's only temporary anyway.

But I return to my point, which is that many people are probably going to see some improvements in their personal economic life under Trump's first term. How is that not something he can put on his resume? Slashing regulations, which you may hate but many people do not, will rightfully get some credit for upticks.

No, no i'm not haha!!

Don't try twist this. Bending over backwards really? Not a chance mate. Not trying to sell a view either. Nor am i trying to convince you. Not sure you know how debate works then.

But yeah it's goo to know you are not really that interested in debate. Other than to be Trump glee club or Cheerleading section.

Anyway you clearly have an agenda and thus far ignore many facts posed to you to try convince us all we should not hate Trump

You were even borderline calling anyone on here who dislikes Trump stupid.

Good to know you live up to the meaning of your username too.
 
Man, just look at his tweets today, full of poor grammar and spelling, contradicting himself and being fact checked by his own. That's just in the past few hours, later there'll be a live satellite link-up to an anti abortion rally where his nut job base will ignore all the reports that he had an affair with a porn star when his son was 6 months old. The guys a lunatic, yet you call booker and Warren crazy. At least they can speak English.

Man I get it. Like I said, he's a buffoon. But how would you respond if I suddenly started talking about Hank Johnson or Maxine Waters and all the absolutely mindnumbingly stupid things that they say? I'm guessing "speaking english" wouldn't really be on the table anymore. It's a complete double standard, even though I share your opinion that a President who can't spell is...problematic.

And you're picking some awful comparisons, even though I agree with you on Trump being a ridiculous person. Booker? As in "my friend T-Bone" and awkwardly chats up strippers Cory Booker? Elizabeth don't exploit poor people or minorities unless it helps you get tenure Warren?
 
Honestly I don't see how someone could like the tax plan. Repealing the individual mandate for the Affordable Care Act NEVER should have been allowed to be included in a 'tax plan'. Moreover language that defines life beginning at conception has nothing to do with taxes. It's just setting the stage for a Roe v Wade challenge.

Any fiscal conservative should also be outraged at the long term damage done to the deficit.

Adding in the direct part where folks exactly like Trump (real estate developers) benefit makes me sick to my stomach. That his policies make him richer is sickening.

Eh, that's a standard liberal trope. I agree increased deficits are bad. But the left absolutely will not come to the table on spending, and given the trajectory of our country, I support any opportunities to get taxation levels down. Paying effectively 40% of your income to the government is patently absurd, in my worldview.
 
I think he's divisive. I think Obama was too. That's not really a moral equivocation, but Obama didn't like people like me. There is a chance you don't like people like me.

Trump is a buffoon. But he's a buffoon with at least some skill level, as blundering as it may be. I don't appreciate how Trump handles racial issues. But I do appreciate that unlike Mitt Romney, where everything thrown at him stuck, Trump simply doesn't care and keeps doing what he wants to do. Romney is a much better leader than Trump and a much better human being. But how did that work out for conservatives when Romney somehow got blamed for a woman dying of cancer and was drug through the mud for the horrific crime of hazing a kid in high school?

Anyway, this isn't a "Trump is the guy we need" speech. But a lot of people think that, and they've got bona fide reasons for that position.
Well, I guess we can just stop any discussion then. In what world was Obama divisive?
 
I think he's divisive. I think Obama was too. That's not really a moral equivocation, but Obama didn't like people like me. There is a chance you don't like people like me.

Obama divisive? Seriously? Now i know you have an agenda.

As for the second part do elaborate why you feel Obama disliked "people like you"? As otherwise you sound like the very people you said you yourself dislike from the Trump side.
 
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