Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Pettifogger]

No, no i'm not haha!!

Don't try twist this. Bending over backwards really? Not a chance mate. Not trying to sell a view either. Nor am i trying to convince you. Not sure you know how debate works then.

But yeah it's goo to know you are not really that interested in debate. Other than to be Trump glee club or Cheerleading section.

Anyway you clearly have an agenda and thus far ignore many facts posed to you to try convince us all we should not hate Trump

You were even borderline calling anyone on here who dislikes Trump stupid.

Good to know you live up to the meaning of your username too.

What does this even mean? You've lost the plot.

Anyway, disregard my "bending over backward" statement. I'll talk about whatever you want to talk about. There are almost no places for someone like me to talk to someone like you without it becoming mere namecalling and other stupidity, so I'll take back whatever I said that you think is improper if it furthers constructive dialogue.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Well, I guess we can just stop any discussion then. In what world was Obama divisive?

And let's be clear who you're talking to - I voted for Obama in neither election

 

[Pettifogger]

Well, I guess we can just stop any discussion then. In what world was Obama divisive?

Eh, if half the country doesn't like you, you're divisive. "Clings to guns and religion" Obama? Not divisive? Spying on conservative reporters - not divisive? Instituting a sweeping healthcare reform the majority of the country grew to dislike, not divisive?

Come on guys.

 

[SteveSC]

What does this even mean? You've lost the plot.

Anyway, disregard my "bending over backward" statement. I'll talk about whatever you want to talk about. There are almost no places for someone like me to talk to someone like you without it becoming mere namecalling and other stupidity, so I'll take back whatever I said that you think is improper if it furthers constructive dialogue.

It's quite clear and no i have not.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Eh, if half the country doesn't like you, you're divisive. "Clings to guns and religion" Obama? Not divisive? Spying on conservative reporters - not divisive? Instituting a sweeping healthcare reform the majority of the country grew to dislike, not divisive?

Come on guys.

If you can't tell the difference between the way that Trump speaks and panders to the very worst in his despicable base and the way that Obama spoke, I really don't know how we can have a discussion between adults.

 

[Pettifogger]

If you can't tell the difference between the way that Trump speaks and panders to the very worst in his despicable base and the way that Obama spoke, I really don't know how we can have a discussion between adults.

It's not very adult to make the absurd assumptions you keep making. I disagree with you politically. The idea that you're therefore more "adult" than me is bizarre.

I agree, I like Obama's public speaking better than Trump's. I think he presented the correct tone more often, even though I do not think it was supported in deed.

 

[ilikecheese]

Eh, that's a standard liberal trope. I agree increased deficits are bad. But the left absolutely will not come to the table on spending, and given the trajectory of our country, I support any opportunities to get taxation levels down. Paying effectively 40% of your income to the government is patently absurd, in my worldview.

What is standard liberal trope?

 

[roydo]

As a neutral Brit in this, and not having a clue about the internal US political game, I will say that Obama was a statesman. Trump is just a state.

Thanks Merica.

 

[Pettifogger]

What is standard liberal trope?

Bashing the tax cuts over the potential deficit hit when liberals haven't cared about the deficit spending in a long time. There is a real discussion to be had about tax cuts and spending (and the resulting impact), but it's rare that the discussion actually happens. I'd compare it to folks who spend considerable effort bashing the religious right trying to use principles of Christianity against Trump supporters.

 

[Ruairi77]

Man I get it. Like I said, he's a buffoon. But how would you respond if I suddenly started talking about Hank Johnson or Maxine Waters and all the absolutely mindnumbingly stupid things that they say? I'm guessing "speaking english" wouldn't really be on the table anymore. It's a complete double standard, even though I share your opinion that a President who can't spell is...problematic.

And you're picking some awful comparisons, even though I agree with you on Trump being a ridiculous person. Booker? As in "my friend T-Bone" and awkwardly chats up strippers Cory Booker? Elizabeth don't exploit poor people or minorities unless it helps you get tenure Warren?

I didn't pick the comparisons, I was using your examples. You might not like their politics but they are just regular partizan politicians. I'd be pretty shocked and disappointed of someone like Watters ever got the Democratic nod. That said, I'm an independent, an independent who can't fathom why the republicans aren't standing up and fighting against the hijacking of their party by a small group who have a complete basket case of a leader.

It's myopic beyond belief to think any of this is acceptable.

 

[Pettifogger]

As a neutral Brit in this, and not having a clue about the internal US political game, I will say that Obama was a statesman. Trump is just a state.

Thanks Merica.

I don't think he was a particularly fine example of a statesman, but to the extent "normal" Presidents fall into that category, and Trump is far from normal, I probably agree.

 

[Pettifogger]

I didn't pick the comparisons, I was using your examples. You might not like their politics but they are just regular partizan politicians. I'd be pretty shocked and disappointed of someone like Watters ever got the Democratic nod. That said, I'm an independent, an independent who can't fathom why the republicans aren't standing up and fighting against the hijacking of their party by a small group who have a complete basket case of a leader.

It's myopic beyond belief to think any of this is acceptable.

I think you're forgetting, purposefully or not, that a lot of Republicans did that. Most Republicans didn't want Trump in the primaries. Hell the GOP actively undermined him for a long time. But he won the nomination and he won the presidency. And now, at least to some extent, he's pushing their agenda. What should they do, in your opinion? If I'm a capitalist, tax cutting, pro-second amendment conservative, am I supposed to join a resistance element that hates everything I stand for?

 

[roydo]

I don't think he was a particularly fine example of a statesman, but to the extent "normal" Presidents fall into that category, and Trump is far from normal, I probably agree.

He was admired over here, and he and his wife absolutely charmed the Royal Family and the general public. Trump is scared to come here.

"Land of the Brave" to paraphrase. Right Oh.

 

[Pettifogger]

He was admired over here, and he and his wife absolutely charmed the Royal Family and the general public. Trump is scared to come here.

"Land of the Brave" to paraphrase. Right Oh.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but the ideology he espouses is more welcome en masse there than here, by my estimation. So it makes sense that the UK and the continent found favor with him. But sure, I still agree he had a far more dignified, presidential presence than Trump.

But W, for his faults, was a generally polite and personable human being, and I'm guessing he wasn't admired, yeah?

 

[SteveSC]

Bashing the tax cuts over the potential deficit hit when liberals haven't cared about the deficit spending in a long time. There is a real discussion to be had about tax cuts and spending (and the resulting impact), but it's rare that the discussion actually happens. I'd compare it to folks who spend considerable effort bashing the religious right trying to use principles of Christianity against Trump supporters.

Your party spent 8 years not wanting to deal with Obama. Ignoring his requests. Batting back his proposals and refusing to sit down and talk with him. When they did sit down and listen to him sorry i mean sit for the cameras with him They were never interested in what he had to say.

I hear the GOP voters say this all of the time about liberals but it is untrue.

The democrats are doing now the exact same thing as the GOP did with Obama and you people on the right can't handle it.

Not that it would matter because the 3 instances of the democrats wanting to work with the GOP since Trump took office were ignored. Healthcare and taxes they were open to sitting down but were ignored as well their votes were not needed.

Then Trump had the audacity to claim things fail because the democrats would not play ball. They didn't need to. Your lot controls everything and still struggle.

Even with the whole DACA thing. Finally they both sit down and come to an agreement on something and Trump acts like a child and throws it in both parties faces and disagrees even after saying he would sign anything they brought him collectively.

The GOP is the party with the real issues. Talk about divided.

But sure be like fox new and continue to blame the democrats for everything.