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Him and the guy who served two tours with the US Army who is now being deported.
MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN FOR UNEDUCATED WHITE MEN
Stand by for a new round of 419 Scams.. along the lines of "not being able to get the money out the country"
There's about 5 news stories each day, any of which, on their own, would have dogged Obamas presidency for months!
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Drain the diaper.........
POTUS is an absolute cockwomble
TheFinnFan
Finners
This case is absolutely fascinating. Pure war between Obama holdouts and Trump camp in the intelligence agencies. Clapper and Comey suddenly know nothing lol
Catherine Herridge just said for example these Flynn leaks dont happend from lower parts of the intelligence hierarchy but infact from very high places.
It looks to me like former president used his powers to use national intelligence agencies for political reasons and purposes. There will be paper trails and this will be interesting as hell.
Catherine Herridge just said for example these Flynn leaks dont happend from lower parts of the intelligence hierarchy but infact from very high places.
It looks to me like former president used his powers to use national intelligence agencies for political reasons and purposes. There will be paper trails and this will be interesting as hell.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...teel-for-keystone_us_58bbae99e4b0fa65b844b451
Hmm, not so much America first it would seem, but then that's perhaps not that surprising given
https://t.co/GL6hXuTk78 and https://t.co/xQpj2I2w9F
Hmm, not so much America first it would seem, but then that's perhaps not that surprising given
https://t.co/GL6hXuTk78 and https://t.co/xQpj2I2w9F
Err yes - to bug the Russian ambassador, which am pretty sure every President before him did. As per Flynn's resignation statement "I inadvertently briefed the Vice President-elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian ambassador." Or should the national agencies stop their wiretapping of any ambassador when Flynn is dumb enough to call on a line he surely knew was likely being recorded and then "misremember" what was discussed? And should the national agencies refuse to reveal the content of those calls so the Vice President could compare what Flynn was telling him and the transcripts?
Collection of data on the activities of foreign government representatives can be entirely apolitical domestically, although obviously has political consequences elsewhere such as when Merkel found out she had been bugged. Would think it likely some US politicians got recorded in her conversations as well, of all political stripes, doesn't mean they were the target of the wiretaps. Reading of a foreign ambassadors communications has been a time honoured practice in many countries for many centuries, Queen Elizabeth 1's spymaster Francis Walsingham would have loved the NSA.
Have yet to see any evidence that Trump's campaign or staff was targeted directly, even the sketchy reports that Trump seems to have based his tweets on suggested that it was a Russian bank that was the target of the investigation.
I agree with you though that the leaks that brought Flynn's misstatements to the public's attention are likely politically motivated - as were leaks about possible investigations into Clinton but you had no problem with those...
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Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
are you a spy in Finland?
This is from a place you'll never visit, but is worth your consideration. How did we get here?
The events of recent years make me think we are closer to (perhaps even in contact with) the leading edge of Kurzweil's Singularity than any of us suspected. The disruptions this brings to a world with widely differing levels of education and readiness for a process we are unable to see to the other side of leads to many of the issues we deal with today. For example, what do people do in a world that has no use for their labor, whether it is physical or intellectual? Hence, the following discussion of what should be done by a party that has control of the executive, congress, and the judiciary branches for the next two years at a minimum.
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Here's a very basic disagreement we seem to be having, though few actually engage in an argument about it:
How far along the decline do you imagine we are? How close to the Point of No Return are we?
Because I guarantee you, your answer to this question largely determines your answer to the Great Trump Question.
There are two answers on each end of the spectrum here. I will parodize both somewhat, with the caveat that these are supposed to be representative of the Strongest Form of each claim, and therefore probably do not actually reflect many people's actual beliefs. However, let these stand as the two poles opposite each other. People will fall somewhere along the scale, nearer to one, or nearer to the other, but these parodized, hyperbolic claims represent the far end of each line of thinking.
Proposition 1: The country, and the GOP itself, are in excellent shape as they are. The GOP has no need to rethink its foreign policy or its embrace of national building not just as a necessary evil in the post-warfighting phase of war, but in an actual goal of warfighting in and of itself.
The GOP has no need to do anything at all to help working class voters who find many of the jobs they used to do have now been outsourced to foreign countries, and must now compete for the diminished number of jobs remaining with the large numbers of foreign replacements who have been insourced. That these people are now taking opioids and killing themselves in large numbers just indicates they weren't of terribly fit stock in the first place and were ripe for replacement. And if they want to improve their lives, they should just Learn Computers Or Whatever.
And as for the Left: Nothing is really different about the left. It is just the same annoying creature it always was. Despite the claims from The Crazies, the left can be dealt with the way it always has, through piecemeal appeasement and serial surrenders which exhaust them by making them march to precisely where they wanted to go in the first place, but at a somewhat slowed and awkward pace.
Surely, we need not fear their rising militancy and violence. Only kookoobananas cowards who are also racists would take seriously the claims government operatives are now targeting conservatives and the media seems to be deliberately stoking grievances which prompt leftists to then commit acts of violence -- acts of violence the media does not report, but I'm sure that's just an oversight.
Proposition 2: The world is on fire and America is essentially dead. Everyone responsible for this should be dragged through the streets and then raped by Kodiaks. We had nothing to do with any of this ourselves, it's all a conspiracy of the corporations and monied interests to screw us over. No one in the GOP believes a damn thing they say and their promises die on the day they trick us to reelecting them. No one in DC knows a single thing about anything and no one who has ever written about DC should ever be read again. Their works should all be consigned to the Purging Flames.
Okay, sorry, I couldn't parodize the second one as well as the first because quite frankly I believe in the second one much more than the first. But I did try, and I think I should get credit for that.
The consequence of this question is this:
There is Maslow's famous hierarchy of needs. The theory is that people seek the next good on the hierarchy, but only after they have secured the good on the rung below it.
I'm putting this hierarchy in reverse order of the way its usually presented. I'm starting with the basest, most fundamental need first, then moving down to the more abstract needs.
The hierarchy goes like so:
1. Physiological.
2. Safety.
3. Love/Belonging.
4. Esteem.
5. Self-actualization.
All of those things on that list are good, but no one worries about self-actualization if his physiological needs are not met: What he worries about is his physiological needs. He needs food and water and air and warmth before he thinks of anything else first.
(BTW, even those needs have a hierarchy: first air, then water, then food, then warmth, then shelter. This is a biological priority: you can go two minutes without air before you die, two days without water until you die, two weeks without food before you die... etc.)
Now let me adapt this into the hierarchy of political needs:
1. Security from bandits, invaders, Vikings, street criminals.
2. Security from harassment or assault from government officials themselves. (Note that 1 and 2 can easily flip depending on which is more threatening, but generally, states are formed to defend a land against outside conquerers and then that state moves on to conquering its own people.)
3. Security from social or cultural degradation and being assigned to an officially or semi-officially inferior caste -- think "Civil Rights." Think casual slurs directed at any group.
4. Big picture, gut level, philosophy-defining questions, such as on abortion, the sanctity of marriage, whether the state will permit personal property or whether it will all be shared, whether criminals will be treated leniently or punitively, etc.
5. More wonkish refinements of the big-picture gut level items -- whether or not we'll have a border adjustment tax or an Ex-Im Bank or whether we will declare as a nation that we will go to war with Russia if it threatens Estonia, even though we all know it doesn't matter what we say, we won't go to war, but it's important for our self-esteem to claim we might.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/368729.php
There's more. I encourage you to read it. If you can send people to the lefty sites, I can send you here. You might learn something about the thoughts of those you disagree with. Or not. That basically depends on you. I don't expect any agreement (except maybe for Finners) but this is a pretty accurate reflection of what I see, and these are just questions within the GOP. We are convinced that if you are allowed to kill the golden goose of America that produces prosperity and freedom for its own citizens, we're all (that includes you folks in L4) back to a pre-modern state sooner than you can imagine. The answer to this is not to ridicule the poor souls you see killing themselves with opioids, but to engage their needs as well. That's what Trump understood that no one else did, summed up in one line.
"I love the poorly educated."
Ace does a far better job expressing all this than I would. I would also encourage you to follow the embedded links above. These are only some of the issues of our "Fourth Turning".
The events of recent years make me think we are closer to (perhaps even in contact with) the leading edge of Kurzweil's Singularity than any of us suspected. The disruptions this brings to a world with widely differing levels of education and readiness for a process we are unable to see to the other side of leads to many of the issues we deal with today. For example, what do people do in a world that has no use for their labor, whether it is physical or intellectual? Hence, the following discussion of what should be done by a party that has control of the executive, congress, and the judiciary branches for the next two years at a minimum.
***
Here's a very basic disagreement we seem to be having, though few actually engage in an argument about it:
How far along the decline do you imagine we are? How close to the Point of No Return are we?
Because I guarantee you, your answer to this question largely determines your answer to the Great Trump Question.
There are two answers on each end of the spectrum here. I will parodize both somewhat, with the caveat that these are supposed to be representative of the Strongest Form of each claim, and therefore probably do not actually reflect many people's actual beliefs. However, let these stand as the two poles opposite each other. People will fall somewhere along the scale, nearer to one, or nearer to the other, but these parodized, hyperbolic claims represent the far end of each line of thinking.
Proposition 1: The country, and the GOP itself, are in excellent shape as they are. The GOP has no need to rethink its foreign policy or its embrace of national building not just as a necessary evil in the post-warfighting phase of war, but in an actual goal of warfighting in and of itself.
The GOP has no need to do anything at all to help working class voters who find many of the jobs they used to do have now been outsourced to foreign countries, and must now compete for the diminished number of jobs remaining with the large numbers of foreign replacements who have been insourced. That these people are now taking opioids and killing themselves in large numbers just indicates they weren't of terribly fit stock in the first place and were ripe for replacement. And if they want to improve their lives, they should just Learn Computers Or Whatever.
And as for the Left: Nothing is really different about the left. It is just the same annoying creature it always was. Despite the claims from The Crazies, the left can be dealt with the way it always has, through piecemeal appeasement and serial surrenders which exhaust them by making them march to precisely where they wanted to go in the first place, but at a somewhat slowed and awkward pace.
Surely, we need not fear their rising militancy and violence. Only kookoobananas cowards who are also racists would take seriously the claims government operatives are now targeting conservatives and the media seems to be deliberately stoking grievances which prompt leftists to then commit acts of violence -- acts of violence the media does not report, but I'm sure that's just an oversight.
Proposition 2: The world is on fire and America is essentially dead. Everyone responsible for this should be dragged through the streets and then raped by Kodiaks. We had nothing to do with any of this ourselves, it's all a conspiracy of the corporations and monied interests to screw us over. No one in the GOP believes a damn thing they say and their promises die on the day they trick us to reelecting them. No one in DC knows a single thing about anything and no one who has ever written about DC should ever be read again. Their works should all be consigned to the Purging Flames.
Okay, sorry, I couldn't parodize the second one as well as the first because quite frankly I believe in the second one much more than the first. But I did try, and I think I should get credit for that.
The consequence of this question is this:
There is Maslow's famous hierarchy of needs. The theory is that people seek the next good on the hierarchy, but only after they have secured the good on the rung below it.
I'm putting this hierarchy in reverse order of the way its usually presented. I'm starting with the basest, most fundamental need first, then moving down to the more abstract needs.
The hierarchy goes like so:
1. Physiological.
2. Safety.
3. Love/Belonging.
4. Esteem.
5. Self-actualization.
All of those things on that list are good, but no one worries about self-actualization if his physiological needs are not met: What he worries about is his physiological needs. He needs food and water and air and warmth before he thinks of anything else first.
(BTW, even those needs have a hierarchy: first air, then water, then food, then warmth, then shelter. This is a biological priority: you can go two minutes without air before you die, two days without water until you die, two weeks without food before you die... etc.)
Now let me adapt this into the hierarchy of political needs:
1. Security from bandits, invaders, Vikings, street criminals.
2. Security from harassment or assault from government officials themselves. (Note that 1 and 2 can easily flip depending on which is more threatening, but generally, states are formed to defend a land against outside conquerers and then that state moves on to conquering its own people.)
3. Security from social or cultural degradation and being assigned to an officially or semi-officially inferior caste -- think "Civil Rights." Think casual slurs directed at any group.
4. Big picture, gut level, philosophy-defining questions, such as on abortion, the sanctity of marriage, whether the state will permit personal property or whether it will all be shared, whether criminals will be treated leniently or punitively, etc.
5. More wonkish refinements of the big-picture gut level items -- whether or not we'll have a border adjustment tax or an Ex-Im Bank or whether we will declare as a nation that we will go to war with Russia if it threatens Estonia, even though we all know it doesn't matter what we say, we won't go to war, but it's important for our self-esteem to claim we might.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/368729.php
There's more. I encourage you to read it. If you can send people to the lefty sites, I can send you here. You might learn something about the thoughts of those you disagree with. Or not. That basically depends on you. I don't expect any agreement (except maybe for Finners) but this is a pretty accurate reflection of what I see, and these are just questions within the GOP. We are convinced that if you are allowed to kill the golden goose of America that produces prosperity and freedom for its own citizens, we're all (that includes you folks in L4) back to a pre-modern state sooner than you can imagine. The answer to this is not to ridicule the poor souls you see killing themselves with opioids, but to engage their needs as well. That's what Trump understood that no one else did, summed up in one line.
"I love the poorly educated."
Ace does a far better job expressing all this than I would. I would also encourage you to follow the embedded links above. These are only some of the issues of our "Fourth Turning".
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Who is ridiculing those who are killing themselves with opioids?
And I'll believe Trump actually cares about that particular issue if he objects to the recent healthcare bill removing the requirement to have substance abuse treatments covered by insurance plans offered and also hurts those currently being treated by Medicaid - as these Republican senators have pointed out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucej...-health-republican-senators-say/#5e0de14a2b54
The Republican-led U.S. House proposal to replace the Affordable Care Act could hurt millions of Americans who suffer mental illness or substance abuse of drugs like Opioids because it rolls back the ACA's Medicaid expansion, say four GOP Senators.
A few things:
1) Not sure if some shoving match at Middlebury college calls for the quip "rising militancy and violence." I don't agree with the regressive left's rise in censorship on college campuses, but Murray is a long-time eugenicist/racist who deserves both to speak freely, and also hear any peaceful protestations regarding his pseudo-scientific message.
2) Put down the pipe.
3) The rest I couldn't understand because, see #2
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Stumbled upon this because of his shamrock error
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