Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[JimmyJeffers]

So, you disagree with the IMAGE that NYC had which WAS driven along by certain movies and Tv Series. To suggest otherwise is bizarre. Showing wealth and opulance in NYC is hardly going to make it look like a dump lol

A republican followed the advice of tax lawyers & of course while its well known that buildings can be overvalued (globally) it is up to the actual assessors who may be appointed on both sides, to determine the value for the loan and what is acceptable -- on both sides.

I'm sure you know the above already but seem to say Trump was leaning over his desk fudging the numbers himself or yelling at tax lawyers to obey him lol

In both cases, the judges were well known democat supporters. How can that be 'fair' ?

But my question wasnt about these clearly biased situations.

It was, essentially when will NYC recover from the shocking business, crime and now legal disasters that the city is now known for?

Can you apologise for spreading false information on the internet please

 

[Ruairi77]

So, you disagree with the IMAGE that NYC had which WAS driven along by certain movies and Tv Series. To suggest otherwise is bizarre. Showing wealth and opulance in NYC is hardly going to make it look like a dump lol

A republican followed the advice of tax lawyers & of course while its well known that buildings can be overvalued (globally) it is up to the actual assessors who may be appointed on both sides, to determine the value for the loan and what is acceptable -- on both sides.

I'm sure you know the above already but seem to say Trump was leaning over his desk fudging the numbers himself or yelling at tax lawyers to obey him lol

In both cases, the judges were well known democat supporters. How can that be 'fair' ?

But my question wasnt about these clearly biased situations.

It was, essentially when will NYC recover from the shocking business, crime and now legal disasters that the city is now known for?

you seem fairly well traveled. When was the last time you were in NYC.
There might be a slight slowdown because of the current cost of money
But it's inevitable that as soon as the fed drop rates a tiny bit, things will start motoring again.
NYC is pretty resilient tho.
What that city went through during covid is unreal. A friend of mine had to leave the city when the sight of overflow corpses being loaded in to freezer trucks out her back window became too much (next to Mount Sinai)
But yea, it's a really good place to live and bring up a family. It's only downside is price. everything is pretty expensive.

 

[Xizor]

I'm sure Zatara's sentiment comes from the same place as the people living in rural UK who have never travelled to modern London, but all seem to have opinions about how it's become a crime-ridden wasteland under Khan's watch.

There's also something peculiar about the way the people who lean to the right equate all crime to 'street crime' and are happy to give passes to the sort of massive frauds and thefts that educated white collar workers can carry out from the comfort of their office chairs.

 

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[Xizor]

"Evidence is not a Democrat". What a line, stick it on a t-shirt.

 

[Zatara]

NYPD ANNOUNCES CITYWIDE CRIME STATISTICS FOR MARCH, FIRST QUARTER 2024

NYPD ANNOUNCES CITYWIDE CRIME STATISTICS FOR MARCH, FIRST QUARTER 2024

www.nyc.gov

New York City saw continued reductions in overall crime through the first quarter of 2024, both above ground, on streets throughout the five boroughs, and below ground, within the nation’s largest subway system. The single month of March 2024, compared to the same month last year, experienced even more drastic crime declines.

Wow thanks for sharing this. As I said, im going on 'image' and 'perception' as an outsider.

I do have a question on this...if the city is now 'soft on crime' and many criminal activities are downgraded to 'misdemeanours' then while those offenders in the past would be recorded.

Surely now those type of crimes would not be recorded?

you seem fairly well traveled. When was the last time you were in NYC.
There might be a slight slowdown because of the current cost of money
But it's inevitable that as soon as the fed drop rates a tiny bit, things will start motoring again.
NYC is pretty resilient tho.
What that city went through during covid is unreal. A friend of mine had to leave the city when the sight of overflow corpses being loaded in to freezer trucks out her back window became too much (next to Mount Sinai)
But yea, it's a really good place to live and bring up a family. It's only downside is price. everything is pretty expensive.

I was there around 2008 when it was a ghost town in manhattan. Still of course an interesting experience but not what I was expecting.

The city came to life at night inside restaurants, bars and clubs but otherwise the financial crisis really had a major impact. Asia was still busy and i was quite shocked...

Agree on NYC being resilient, it seems to have peaks and troughs.

I had video calls with both democrats and republicans during covid. All decided to stay and luckily no one i know suffered.

Interestingly, the more 'salt of the earth' types have been telling me since covid that things have been going downhill while those from 'upper class / family money' dont seem to notice any difference.

The foreigners i know who lived there have all now moved away, some to London and others to Asia.

Los Angeles seems to be going through a negative process as well while Miami which was previously known to be dodgy as hell...looks to be going up and fast.

Its not unheard of for branded residences to sold out very very quickly in major cities but the 'new' Mandarin Oriental residences in both cities is still selling slowly...while the hotel group are building an enormous hotel and residences in Miami as their North American showpiece.

Waldorf Astoria also in NYC has seen slow residential sales and is also opening in Miami.

The outside perception seems to be rather negative at the moment.

 

[peteblue]

Not Falling Down? The one where he snaps and goes on a crime spree?

Re the highlighted part: My favourite part is that one of the company accountants from Trump's organization gave testimony that Trump gave her explicit instructions to request the audited financial statements from the auditors in Word format... The auditors usually send the AFS in a locked PDF format which cannot be edited.

I wonder wonder wonder why Trump would have asked for that?!

His ZX81 doesn’t do PDF’s……

 

[Ruairi77]

Wow thanks for sharing this. As I said, im going on 'image' and 'perception' as an outsider.

I do have a question on this...if the city is now 'soft on crime' and many criminal activities are downgraded to 'misdemeanours' then while those offenders in the past would be recorded.

Surely now those type of crimes would not be recorded?



I was there around 2008 when it was a ghost town in manhattan. Still of course an interesting experience but not what I was expecting.

The city came to life at night inside restaurants, bars and clubs but otherwise the financial crisis really had a major impact. Asia was still busy and i was quite shocked...

Agree on NYC being resilient, it seems to have peaks and troughs.

I had video calls with both democrats and republicans during covid. All decided to stay and luckily no one i know suffered.

Interestingly, the more 'salt of the earth' types have been telling me since covid that things have been going downhill while those from 'upper class / family money' dont seem to notice any difference.

The foreigners i know who lived there have all now moved away, some to London and others to Asia.

Los Angeles seems to be going through a negative process as well while Miami which was previously known to be dodgy as hell...looks to be going up and fast.

Its not unheard of for branded residences to sold out very very quickly in major cities but the 'new' Mandarin Oriental residences in both cities is still selling slowly...while the hotel group are building an enormous hotel and residences in Miami as their North American showpiece.

Waldorf Astoria also in NYC has seen slow residential sales and is also opening in Miami.

The outside perception seems to be rather negative at the moment.

If working class people and foreigners are leaving, it's because of the crazy cost of living.
Not because it's turned in to a dangerous craphole.
NYC is doing just fine if you can afford it.

The perception you talk about is the same that peteblue was going on about re. the trial.
It's basically a right wing scaremongering POV and I'd either pay no attention to it or change up where you get your views because it's not accurate.

edit- Eric Adams seems like a bit of a plonker tho.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Why would I need to show you anything? You just made baseless assertions based apparently on watching old movies and TV shows and thinking what they portrayed was better than what you read about now "from the outside". Demanding evidence for a rebuttal is a bit rich, and to be honest it would be a bit demeaning to even engage with you over something so ridiculous as "real estate TV shows".

But if you insist on something to chew on, here's one:

You said "There's no crime here" relating to the falsified Trump Org records. A state supreme court judge disagreed, and given that Trump's team forgot to ask for a jury, that makes it a legal fact. I don't need any further supporting evidence to rebut your uninformed legal opinion, and if you want to pursue the argument that Engoron is biased and conjured a crime up then that's one you'll have the burden of proof for (and that doesn't mean simply re-litigating Trump's legal defence here - saying the banks got paid back doesn't mean Trump didn't fraudulently manipulate business records/property values to get more favourable loan terms he'd have otherwise been ineligible for).

Saying "there's no victim" reminds me of the videos of those idiot Sovereign Citizens stopped on the roadside, claiming the police have no power to stop them for speeding/no insurance whatever because "a crime has to have a victim". There's no understanding that throwing away the regulations for your own personal gain can have a knock on affect on others, those cases crashing into others whilst uninsured, and in Trump's case passing unknown risks on to the lending banks which could affect their other customers. Saying "Well it didn't happen" after the fact doesn't mean we should just handwave this stuff away.

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[Rita_Poon]

Which Michael Douglas movie is this?

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[Tommy Chong]

This is just common sense... I mean C'MON!

It's like he has to explain it to a child.

 

[Rita_Poon]

So, you disagree with the IMAGE that NYC had

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[dylsexicbleu]

Trump making NY competitive in the GE. Remarkable.

 

[Zatara]

I'm sure Zatara's sentiment comes from the same place as the people living in rural UK who have never travelled to modern London, but all seem to have opinions about how it's become a crime-ridden wasteland under Khan's watch.

There's also something peculiar about the way the people who lean to the right equate all crime to 'street crime' and are happy to give passes to the sort of massive frauds and thefts that educated white collar workers can carry out from the comfort of their office chairs.

If you look at the punishments for crypto crimes compared with banking crimes its extremely disproportionate. Where there are victims then of course the crime and punishment should be the same for all.

For the case against Trump inflating values of assets...its not like he provided a personal valuation and the banks agreed. They have their own assessors who would provide their own valuation.

Thats common sense, no one provides a valuation to a bank in any city ive heard of and the bank simply agrees and ticks a box. Thats why it certainly seems off piste and why the banks had no problems -- only the democtats.

In the second situation under an NDA apparently these mean nothing anymore in NYC. Not to mention that tax advisors and attorneys would be the ones approving the documentation -- its not solely the 'evil Trump'. The pornstar put on a different performance to previously and was allowed to roam massively off topic by the judge.

That to me also seems extremely unfair and not neutral. Trump was found guilty before he walked into the courtroom. It was obvious.

I meantioned Florida before and businesses are moving or already moved there and to parts of Texas -- out of NYC.

Who really cares when living and working in a city that there are some white collar criminals? Miami had a really dodgy repuation and now it seems like NYC and Miami have swapped.

But really the perception of NYC now is definitely to the point of being 'unsafe'.

With London, I went there not too long ago and found it to be the same as always. The only difference was that there were more places that English wasnt a first language with customer facing staff. Thats new.

Everyone i met there did tell me before going to have my wits about me and that i would hate what its become. During my trip they would prod me and say "see its changed so much"...not really.

This lawyer is talking about the 'letter of the law' but to do that he could also explain why it was only the democratic party pushing to file charges? Not anyone else, even the FBI who looked at the case and didnt proceed...why have many others not been charged like this and trump singled out?

Imagine how anti-Trump that jury would be. Just on the law of averages there would be a majority that hate Trump in that location -- thats not a neutral jury...not to mention the judge who was clearly a democrat.

This isnt me making up a story to support trump, those are as close to facts as you'll find.

 

[Rita_Poon]

ah america, the image and perception I have is that they all work at the nuclear plant, drink duff, hang about at a bar run by some gargoyle named Moe, and are known to be a little glutenous.

I commit to this understanding totally 'cos I've seen it on tv!