Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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tsubaki said:
Sorry for repeating myself but this really does sound like the plan is to have Nauta take the fall for this, as in:

i) they claim Nauta packed the boxes (which is probably something a jury can believe given Trumps evident hatred for actual work)
ii) Nauta just packed everything but wasn't supervised
iii) when the Archives started to ask Trump if he had any documents, he asked Nauta but was told he hadn't
iv) Trump believed Nauta because he is a good kid (or some such formulation) but didnt check because of his loyalty to his staff or some such crap
v) Trump communicated that out via his lawyers
vi) the FBI raided the show and found the documents proving they were in the boxes all along and Nauta lied to Trump
vii) Trump is really only guilty of standing by this working class American success story

Obviously there is other evidence that suggests all of that didn't happen, but I wonder if Nauta pleads guilty on the first day and says he lied to Trump and its his fault really whether that would throw enough of a spanner in the works for this to collapse (at least in terms of the charges against Trump).

That interview did appear to be a complete mess, but he was specific in saying (and this might be true as some of the reports of what the FBI found suggested this too) that the documents were mixed in with a load of other random things in various boxes.
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I really hope someone close to Nauta is pointing out a Trump pattern of behavior and a wider history of juniors being the fall guy for politicians with little to show for it.
www.pbs.org

Who is Walt Nauta?

When former President Donald Trump appears in federal court Tuesday, he will be joined at the defense table by a man well-practiced in standing by his side.
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iirc at the hearing Trump's lawyer was speaking directly to Nauta and coaching him rather than him relying on his own lawyer. Not even sure who is paying his own lawyer fees, if it is Trump org/campaign he really should get separate representation.
 
LinekersLegs said:
I really hope someone close to Nauta is pointing out a Trump pattern of behavior and a wider history of juniors being the fall guy for politicians with little to show for it.
www.pbs.org

Who is Walt Nauta?

When former President Donald Trump appears in federal court Tuesday, he will be joined at the defense table by a man well-practiced in standing by his side.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

iirc at the hearing Trump's lawyer was speaking directly to Nauta and coaching him rather than him relying on his own lawyer. Not even sure who is paying his own lawyer fees, if it is Trump org/campaign he really should get separate representation.
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from all the reports his legal fees are being paid by Trump organizations, as is his salary of course
 
The was an exchange between Rep Jordan and Special Counsel John Durham at the House Hearing on the Durham Report yesterday:

Jordan: 'Did the government receive intelligence that Sec Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Was that intelligence important enough for Director Brennan to brief the President, Vice President, the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Did Director Comey share this information[that Clinton approved a plan to link Trump to Russia] with the FISA Court, the lawyers preparing the FISA application, or the FBI agents working the case?'

Durham: 'No'


James Comey was as corrupt as they come in regards to Trump and this Russia investigation. A few Americans went to prison because of it. James Comey is the one who should be imprisoned.
 
dylsexicbleu said:
The was an exchange between Rep Jordan and Special Counsel John Durham at the House Hearing on the Durham Report yesterday:

Jordan: 'Did the government receive intelligence that Sec Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Was that intelligence important enough for Director Brennan to brief the President, Vice President, the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Did Director Comey share this information[that Clinton approved a plan to link Trump to Russia] with the FISA Court, the lawyers preparing the FISA application, or the FBI agents working the case?'

Durham: 'No'


James Comey was as corrupt as they come in regards to Trump and this Russia investigation. A few Americans went to prison because of it. James Comey is the one who should be imprisoned.
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More than one person can go to prison. It’s not just Comey or Trump.
 
dylsexicbleu said:
The was an exchange between Rep Jordan and Special Counsel John Durham at the House Hearing on the Durham Report yesterday:

Jordan: 'Did the government receive intelligence that Sec Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Was that intelligence important enough for Director Brennan to brief the President, Vice President, the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI?'

Durham: 'Yes'

Jordan: 'Did Director Comey share this information[that Clinton approved a plan to link Trump to Russia] with the FISA Court, the lawyers preparing the FISA application, or the FBI agents working the case?'

Durham: 'No'


James Comey was as corrupt as they come in regards to Trump and this Russia investigation. A few Americans went to prison because of it. James Comey is the one who should be imprisoned.
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Perhaps this would be a good time for you to go and actually read the Durham Report - the bit of intelligence that Durham and Jordan were on about actually came from Russian intelligence itself:

In late July 2016, U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence analysis alleging that U.S Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had
approved a campaign plan to stir up a scandal against U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump by tying him to Putin and the Russians' hacking of the Democratic National Committee.
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(from page 84)
 
tsubaki said:
Perhaps this would be a good time for you to go and actually read the Durham Report - the bit of intelligence that Durham and Jordan were on about actually came from Russian intelligence itself:



(from page 84)
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I'm not sure of why this is significant. Russia or Russian Intelligence was almost certainly the best place to get such info as the Clinton camp relied on numerous Russian's to falsely link Trump to Russia. If anyone was to know about the Clinton plan to link Trump to Russia it was the Russians, no? Again, Brennan believed the info was significant enough to brief President Obama, Joe Biden, the head of the DoJ and the FBI Director James Comey.

If the Clinton camp are talking to multiple Russians to falsely link Trump to Russia where do you think the intel info is going to come from, Kuwaiti Intelligence? No, it is likely to be from individual Russians or Russian Intelligence.
 
dylsexicbleu said:
I'm not sure of why this is significant. Russia or Russian Intelligence was almost certainly the best place to get such info as the Clinton camp relied on numerous Russian's to falsely link Trump to Russia. If anyone was to know about the Clinton plan to link Trump to Russia it was the Russians, no? Again, Brennan believed the info was significant enough to brief President Obama, Joe Biden, the head of the DoJ and the FBI Director James Comey.

If the Clinton camp are talking to multiple Russians to falsely link Trump to Russia where do you think the intel info is going to come from, Kuwaiti Intelligence? No, it is likely to be from individual Russians or Russian Intelligence.
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If you did actually read the Durham Report, you'd understand that even he thought that the allegations made against the Trump campaign should have been investigated.

Or are you trying to suggest that Russian interference in the 2016 never happened, when they were the sources for both Trump and Clinton's campaigns and for the US government?
 
You know, some people might wonder why Trump still has an army of loyal gimps willing to go to bat for him.

But apart from all the sexual abuse, mishandling of top secret documents, cosying up to dictators, telling people to inject disinfectant, his coup attempt, his almost complete inadequacy as a human being, his desire to bang his own daughter, the widespread financial fraud of all his organisations, his inferiority complex, his racist drive to see innocent men executed in the 90s, his profound stupidity, his historically terrible single term as a president and his seedy partnership with Epstein, he seems like a real standup guy that it would be in no way embarrassing to be associated with.
 
Prevenger17 said:
You know, some people might wonder why Trump still has an army of loyal gimps willing to go to bat for him.

But apart from all the sexual abuse, mishandling of top secret documents, cosying up to dictators, telling people to inject disinfectant, his coup attempt, his almost complete inadequacy as a human being, his desire to bang his own daughter, the widespread financial fraud of all his organisations, his inferiority complex, his racist drive to see innocent men executed in the 90s, his profound stupidity, his historically terrible single term as a president and his seedy partnership with Epstein, he seems like a real standup guy that it would be in no way embarrassing to be associated with.
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Say what you like, but Trump is playing a blinder here!
 
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