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Interesting mate. I know they can't be put in 5 star accommodation before being reassigned but I think there must be a better way than to cram them all in what essentially are cells. It's a sad sitution for sure.
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the woman who said this
"We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period."
Is formalizing a plan to end said policy.
"We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period."
Is formalizing a plan to end said policy.
Aye, I don’t think there is ever going to be a completely ideal solution but that doesn’t mean this particular one is acceptable. At least cells would have proper bedding, toilet and some water plumbed in.
I posted about this and tagged you but because you act like a Russian bot you conveniently ignore it.
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Well said Monsieur. Now that people have seen the consequences maybe they'll think twice about entering the country illegally with their children. And hopefully due to the condemnation the US government will put these kids in better accommodation.
davids
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But they voted him in.
They did.
However more of them/us voted for the other person.
And the ones that did vote for him had their heads turned by illegal foreign influences.
The electoral system does need to chance as does campaign financing.
The American people did not get the president they deserved.
Fox viewers got the president they deserved, and, horrifically, alot still support him.
a) this is also happening to people who are legally entering the country - claiming asylum is legal and despite Trump admin protestations I haven’t seen any legal ruling that you have to do it a specified port of entry and even if you do kids can still be taken, there is a ACLU case regarding one I’ll try to find.
b) You assume they can apply legally, there are multiple reports of asylum apllicants being turned away from ports of entry, such as this https://www.texastribune.org/2018/0...migrants-seeking-asylum-wait-chance-enter-us/
c) Depends what you are fleeing from. If you and your family is starving in Venezuela, or your town is run by a drug cartel in Hondurous, these conditions are probably not going to deter you.
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https://news.sky.com/story/us-house...ily-separations-at-the-mexico-border-11411169
People will need a find another reason to be furious with Donald after this.
People will need a find another reason to be furious with Donald after this.
davids
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Sounds a little like Brexit.
Why? He’s separated over 2000 kids from their families. I don’t see how him reversing the policy he alone implemented to avoid separating 2000 more changes the reality of what happened to those first 2000 or magically reunites them or erases the trauma.
And if his solution is just to put the kids in a jail cell with their parents for weeks on end it is an improvement but not a big one. That was Obama’s solution for a while and it was pretty awful.
http://narrative.ly/the-refugee-jail-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas/
bobbydigital
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Yeah, he was pretty much a saint before this brief foray into torturing children.
What are your favourite things about him anyway?
From Chris Hayes, for some reason tweets don’t seem to show
“For all the talk from the WH about immigrant criminals, the practical effect of the new policy is to radically shift public resources from prosecuting people with criminal records to prosecuting desperate people with no record seeking refuge.
Before this policy roughly 90% of prosecutions in McAllen federal court were of detained immigrants with criminal records. Since the new policy it’s flipped! 90% of those being prosecuted have no record and are facing misdemeanor charges for first time entry”
“For all the talk from the WH about immigrant criminals, the practical effect of the new policy is to radically shift public resources from prosecuting people with criminal records to prosecuting desperate people with no record seeking refuge.
Before this policy roughly 90% of prosecutions in McAllen federal court were of detained immigrants with criminal records. Since the new policy it’s flipped! 90% of those being prosecuted have no record and are facing misdemeanor charges for first time entry”
abelard
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Since 2008, more Mexicans have been leaving the United States than arriving.
Most of the people arriving now are Central American refugees, fleeing the drug wars which of course the United States has done so much to foster and aggravate.
They are not, for the most part, "illegal" immigrants but legitimate asylum seekers, and as such, they are entitled to a series of basic rights under American and international law.
They are not likely to stop arriving, no matter how ghastly the Americans behave, because they are fleeing situations like this:
Ana Ramírez, 34, arrived here 12 days ago from the violent coastal city of Acapulco in southern Mexico, with three children aged 11 to 17 and her 18-month-old grandson. They fled after armed men threatened to kill the family unless the oldest boy – a 14-year-old high-school student – agreed to sell drugs for their gang. The same men took away three of his classmates, who have not been seen since.Ramírez reported the threat to authorities, who advised the family to leave. Terrified, they abandoned their house, clothes, toys, her hotel job and the children’s schooling and borrowed money to fly to Tijuana. On Tuesday, the family was 400th in the asylum queue – down from more than 1,000 12 days ago.Ramírez, like most of women here, was unaware of the new curbs on victims of gang violence and domestic abuse announced last week by the US attorney general. Asylum is for people fleeing persecution because of their religion, political beliefs or membership in a social group, Jeff Sessions said, not those fleeing crime.Ramírez had come prepared with a police report, which she believed would persuade US immigration authorities to grant asylum. “I have proof, if we go back, they will take my son or kill us all, I’m trying to keep my family together … I’m seeking asylum, I wouldn’t enter illegally".
If you're interested in this topic, you might find it helpful to read more about it, in reliable news sources, instead of asking random posters on a football forum what to think...
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