Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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Still don’t know how this wasn’t the total end of it all.
Something need to be done
His popularity amongst the base is increasing, I’d say he’s probably around 50/50 to win re-election .
The GOP is almost a cult terrified of speaking out or facing being primaried ,The only way to have any control over him or his future is a big swing for the Democrats in the midterms.
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Big Fat Sam
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To be fair I don't think he's going to start gassing people.
I don't love him, but I certainly don't hate him either. I guess there always needs to be a villian.
The problem is though mate, he is setting off a process that he may lose control of. He's certainly not a hardened Nazi, but some of te people around him and more importantly some of his base below him are. It's very easy to lose control of events with that context which is certainly the worry.
It's an unpopular opinion, but something similar happened with Hitler. People get carried away, and if you are obsessed with appeasing your base and staying in control it can compel you to perform awful acts.
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Gassing people is what Nazis did - it isn't the definition of Naziism.
I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't see at this point how any reasonable person cannot have hatred - or at the very least a strong sense of revulsion - towards Trump (along with most of his administration and the state sponsored media that supports him) by now.
By the time the Nazis started killing people, it was already way too late. What the Trump administration is doing (on many things, but particularly most recently highlighted by the family separation issue) is disgusting on a humanitarian level.
Even Godwin is onboard:
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Where are the children being taken to? Like a children's jail? Or are there being humanely looked after until their parents are dealt with?
If the children were kept with their parents, would they be in jail, or how would that work? And are parents taking their children across the border because they think it helps them avoid punishment?
Trying to find answers to these questions so that I can give a balanced and fair opinion on this.
If the children were kept with their parents, would they be in jail, or how would that work? And are parents taking their children across the border because they think it helps them avoid punishment?
Trying to find answers to these questions so that I can give a balanced and fair opinion on this.
Humanely seperated from their parents?
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Big Fat Sam
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What I am trying to find out is would the children be thrown in a cell with their parents, or not?
I completely agree children in general shouldn't be removed from their parents unless absolutely necessary, like when they are taken into care because their parents are drug addicts, etc.
Just trying to find out a bit more background to determine an opinion on it myself.
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They’re being put in cages. It’s absolutely despicable and it’s a government policy that was announced with the direct intention of deterring the parents . So they’re using putting children in cages as a weapon and then they’re politicising it to get the Democrats to support his wall and to crack down on legal immigration. It’s absolutely shameful .
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Big Fat Sam
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If that's true about them being put in cages then I would very obviously be against them doing such an inhumane thing. Is this proven?
I agree with the wall, and I agree with punishing people who enter the country illegally, but this, if true, is a crying shame.
Mate just search it yourself and it’s there .
There are a variety of pictures from a variety of locations and in fairness I appreciate the word cage is emotive but the situation is far from a summer camp and a deeply uncomfortable situation for anybody even reading it near mind hearing the crying .
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That's bad that then. No child deserves to be put in a cage, whatever the circumstances. Very sad state of affairs mate.
I know people will cry Godwin's Law with their links between Trump and Hitler, but I feel that you've got a strong point with the idea of events quickly spiralling.
People always appear to have the belief that Hitler and the NSDAP had always planned to exterminate mass groups of people, when the truth is not as simple.
There'll have been those who did and Hitler's anti-Semitic views from the outset can't be ignored, yet moderate-functionalism is now widely accepted by many.
People at the top make statements (racist, xenophobic, militarist etc.), people perceive these in different ways and events can slowly but surely snowball.
This all happens in the name of the person who originally made the statements, however in some cases they have little or no influence in the decision making.
For example, the real architects of the final solution were Heydrich, Müller, Bormann, Klopfer, and Eichmann all working on Hitler's, Himmlers et al. wishes.
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