Donald Trump for President Thread

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Touche. Sometimes the most accurate message is the one that remains unsaid.
Some things are subject to Newtonian principles, others are of a more quantum nature. :D

But wait, there's more.

She was the Democratic candidate because it was her turn and because a Clinton victory would have moved every Democrat in Washington up a notch. Whether or not she would win was always a secondary matter, something that was taken for granted. Had winning been the party’s number one concern, several more suitable candidates were ready to go. There was Joe Biden, with his powerful plainspoken style, and there was Bernie Sanders, an inspiring and largely scandal-free figure. Each of them would probably have beaten Trump, but neither of them would really have served the interests of the party insiders.

And so Democratic leaders made Hillary their candidate even though they knew about her closeness to the banks, her fondness for war, and her unique vulnerability on the trade issue – each of which Trump exploited to the fullest. They chose Hillary even though they knew about her private email server. They chose her even though some of those who studied the Clinton Foundation suspected it was a sketchy proposition.

To try to put over such a nominee while screaming that the Republican is a rightwing monster is to court disbelief. If Trump is a fascist, as liberals often said, Democrats should have put in their strongest player to stop him, not a party hack they’d chosen because it was her turn. Choosing her indicated either that Democrats didn’t mean what they said about Trump’s riskiness, that their opportunism took precedence over the country’s well-being, or maybe both.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ld-trump-white-house-hillary-clinton-liberals



beat you to it!
 
i think having crushing debts just to go to school, laughably improbably odds of home-ownership, and now possibly no health coverage might be a qualitative difference. it is for me!

In a dark irony this is probably going to improve the affordability of housing. No way Asian investors are going to keep dumping their money into our housing market like they have been and making them so wildly unaffordable. Of course there will also be fewer buyers, so...
 
In a dark irony this is probably going to improve the affordability of housing. No way Asian investors are going to keep dumping their money into our housing market like they have been and making them so wildly unaffordable. Of course there will also be fewer buyers, so...

if he contrives to raise interests without being careful about it, as he's speculated, the whole facade everywhere will come tumbling down. my country will be utterly destroyed.
 
if he contrives to raise interests without being careful about it, as he's speculated, the whole facade everywhere will come tumbling down. my country will be utterly destroyed.

Well yes, that too. Yesterday I was musing if it was a good time to replace my 11-year-old car. That idea ended really quickly. Doesn't seem like a good idea to take on more expenses any time soon.
 
Voting for change without knowing what the change is, what chances of success there are, and what it means for the individual is short changing yourself.

As with Britain and Brexit, the USA and Trump face a hugely uncertain future.

The young are being conned 'a better future because the past was ruled by someone else'

We probably have never had it so good.
 
Voting for change without knowing what the change is, what chances of success there are, and what it means for the individual is short changing yourself.

As with Britain and Brexit, the USA and Trump face a hugely uncertain future.

The young are being conned 'a better future because the past was ruled by someone else'

We probably have never had it so good.
I mean...maybe not if we account for the possibility of some Atlantean situation. But outside of that insaneo thought, there's no probably about it.

Objectively, this is the best time to be alive vis a vis life expectancy, health care, freedom, education, equality, and basically every other metric (except happiness, but that's because happiness does not tend to correlate with material state).

It's not good enough as it is, but the desire to roll back the clock blows my mind.
 
this is an election that, for most Americans, was clearly a choice between two very unpalatable options.

one option was stability and certainty, a sense that things would continue to get worse slowly, in more or less than same, predictable way

the other was for the complete unknown, with ample evidence of much darker accompanying overtones






as a foreigner once again back in the US, in my tenth different state now, it is not so easy to see what the latter option has emboldened, then dismiss it as all just typical liberal sneering, when you can't be assured about the safety of your family. yes, #notallTrumplings, but on the other hand, i wonder how much certain posters here have had to consider what that feels like
 
the difference in my eyes is Trump reached out to his core supporters and offered hope, Corbyn doesn't even have the support on most of his party and offers nothing to its northern white working class former supporters ,actively surrounds himself with London bubble elite who look down there noses at them as if they were something on the bottom of there shoe , also unlike Trump carries years of political baggage.

That is what members of the actual London bubble elite like to claim, but it isn't really true. Perhaps he would have more of a place for people of northern white working-class roots, if only the vast majority of Labour safe seats in those areas weren't already in the hands of the actual London bubble elite.
 
Voting for change without knowing what the change is, what chances of success there are, and what it means for the individual is short changing yourself.

As with Britain and Brexit, the USA and Trump face a hugely uncertain future.

The young are being conned 'a better future because the past was ruled by someone else'

Some have never had it so good.
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