Donald Trump for President Thread

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Heard a woman on the news proclaim 'now we can get back to God, Faith and Country'.

This is exactly the type of person that in an ideal world would not be allowed to vote. I emphasise with you if you feel financially left behind, or that politicians are corrupt and want to kick the establishment, or there's too much immigration. However what I can not tolerate is using your religion as a front for you to be a bigot.
 
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Dylan said:
You know, the media saying they underestimated the 'rural white vote' and all these previously unaccounted votes.

Just looked at the numbers, between the two main candidates, voter turnout is WAY down.

2012 (Obama/Romney) had a turnout of 62.3% of registered voters (or 126.83 million votes for the two main candidates).

2016 has a turnout close to 50% of registered voters, and so far T/C have garnered 119.2 million votes.

So, I am more thinking it has nothing to do with the 'rural white vote' and more to do with not wanting Clinton (despite just eeking the popular vote, but that was down to California....and still it is within 300k votes)
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There definitely seems to be an agenda to play down how poorly Hillary and the DNC ran this campaign. No matter how loudly the right decried Hillary, no matter how much the Sanders leftists complained about her record, the Democratic establishment put it all on misogyny and seemed to expect a coronation.

But the truth was, not many people actually wanted Hillary Clinton to be president. So few in fact that one of the weakest Republican candidates in history was able to sweep in with the victory.

It has been impossible to disagree with Clinton on policy, precisely because the actual misogyny in the air is so thick, many of her support and infrastructural framework failed to see the very real concerns that ended up being her undoing (along with the actual vitriol, of course).
 
kithnou said:
His party didn't give him a chance. They conspired against him in support of a poor excuse of a candidate with entitlement issues and got exactly what they deserved.
Sometimes in life justice is a beautiful thing.
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That's true, Bernie is not a democrat but was independent. He played by his rules and they went for Hilary. The polls showed Sanders beating Trump by double digits in May while Clinton was close.

Sanders was anti establishment, the people would have went for him before Trump.
 
Trump vowed to destroy the system that elites love (for good reason) and the masses hate (for equally good reason), while Clinton vowed to manage it more efficiently. That, as Matt Stoller’s indispensable article in The Atlantic three weeks ago documented, is the conniving choice the Democratic Party made decades ago: to abandon populism and become the party of technocratically proficient, mildly benevolent managers of elite power. Those are the cynical, self-interested seeds they planted, and now the crop has sprouted.

Of course there are fundamental differences between Obama’s version of “change” and Trump’s. But at a high level of generality — which is where these messages are often ingested — both were perceived as outside forces on a mission to tear down corrupt elite structures, while Clinton was perceived as devoted to their fortification. That is the choice made by Democrats — largely happy with status quo authorities, believing in their basic goodness — and any honest attempt by Democrats to find the prime author of last night’s debacle will begin with a large mirror.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09...gerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/
 
"This week, in my course on 20th-century American culture, I’ve been lecturing about the combination of existentialism and activism in dark times. Albert Camus worked for the French Resistance in World War II and in 1942 published his now-famous essay arguing that Sisyphus was happy—that his endless rock-pushing represented the work of rebellion that all people of good faith must do. That philosophical example was important to the American activist Tom Hayden, who died a couple of weeks ago. Hayden was a leader of Students for a Democratic Society in the 60s, and he called his fellow activists “soldiers of Camus.” Though he recognized that sometimes they would get nowhere, and would feel radically demoralized, he thought that a Camus-inspired form of rebellion might transcend “the concepts of optimism and pessimism…, finding itself in working despite odds. Its realism and sanity would be grounded in nothing more than the ability to face whatever comes.”

This week, I’ve been honoring Tom Hayden, and quoting his words to my students. Sometimes, he said, life is about “pushing the boulder up the hill over and over.”

Early this morning, the boulder rolled all the way back down to the valley floor. I am radically demoralized. But it’s time to start pushing again."
 
rascal said:
Heard a woman on the news proclaim 'now we can get back to God, Faith and Country'.

This is exactly the type of person that in an ideal world would not be allowed to vote. I emphasise with you if you feel financially left behind, or that politicians are corrupt and want to kick the establishment, or there's too much immigration. However what I can not tolerate is using your religion as a front for you to be a bigot.
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especially as there's no such thing as god
 
I imagine the minority voters who chose not to vote this time around will be quite upset if they decide to get back in the game down the road and discover that they are no longer allowed to vote. In some areas I'm sure this will happen, if not in law then at least in practice.
 
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