Donald Trump for President Thread

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That statement suggests that there is something to be afraid of in other people by virtue of nothing more than they weren't born wherever you were born. We're all equal, just some are more equal than others...

So yes, I will call out people who feel the need to judge those for whom they have no knowledge whatsoever on the basis of their nationality, race, gender or creed.
Straw man argument Bruce. If you actually read the bit you highlighted in the quote to which you responded, you might have noted the correspondent specifically described "poorly screened".
 
That statement suggests that there is something to be afraid of in other people by virtue of nothing more than they weren't born wherever you were born. We're all equal, just some are more equal than others...

So yes, I will call out people who feel the need to judge those for whom they have no knowledge whatsoever on the basis of their nationality, race, gender or creed.

TBF that just proves CCF's point. There is a world of difference between the mass immigration of, say, the Windrush generation - which took place legally - and with that seen over the past twenty years, a substantial amount of which is illegal. We in the West desperately need to go back to the former type of immigration, if for no other reason that the people who run the illegal immigration networks are absolutely vile.
 
Good morning. Funny isn't it?

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When I began my campaign to make America Great Again you all used to laugh at me. Well, you're not laughing anymore.

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Very pleased with the US election. Turned out to be fantastic.
 
Obviously I don't know much or anything about all this kind of thing so I have a few questions:

Yes he's mental, but will he be as bad as feared? Or more, will he be allowed to be as bad?
Will it be the usual promise a lot while campaigning and deliver not a lot as usual with these sorts of things?

I also have a random question about Ronald Reagan. He was an celeb turned president. Was it mad when he got in? Or did he have a better background than Trump? (I don't know what party Reagan was because i'm dumb).
 
Obama's policies were repeatedly stymied by Congress. They're not going to just rubber stamp Trump's every excessive demand. But I do fear for the rights of women, minorities, the disabled and disadvantaged though... the consequences of their 'protest' vote could be absolutely brutal for some.

obama controlled the house and senate for two years during which time he passed obamacare and the bailout.

trump controls the house and senate, has a favourable supreme court, and the vast majority of statehouses.
 
Your point was perfectly valid. The cities, almost universally, voted Dem. And they are the areas with the most diverse voters.

So the people afraid of diversity are actually those with no experience of it.

And I agree with you here as well - I will add that a lack of education and financial disparity are the underlying cause for the racist decisions made both on this and that side of the pond. And I will indeed call Brexit and Trump decisions what they are - fueled by racism, scapegoating problems on an invisible issue. It needs to be called out, even in an era where doing so makes you a minority voice.

The UK probably does differ to the US in this instance.

i.e. 'middle England' - the towns and cities that aren't major university hubs for example - are the areas that swayed Brexit. I know, i'm from one of them, and almost universally the vote was out. But, the difference between the UK and US in this case is that in the UK, due to size more than anything else, I think most areas can claim to be 'affected' (both positively and negatively, btw) by immigration.

I'm from Wakefield. Much of the local population is made up by ethnic minorities or immigrants. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

However, I also accept and acknowledge the fact that in the areas that have the most immigrants in (there are several areas that are 'exclusively' segregated - but such is life), there's more crime, there's a higher poverty rate (due to large-scale organisations exploiting lower wages etc), lower life-expectancy... I could go on.

Now, that's not to say that all of the criminals in my area are immigrants or from ethinic minorities. I'm sure a large number are local divvies and scroates who shouldn't be allowed to breathe, but there are definitely issues.

Rotherham is another example. The politcal correctness of an inept police force unwilling to do what needed to be done, and much of that was due to race.

So, my original point was that, in the UK, the 'backwater' towns and cities have an experience of immigration. To say that these places don't is a bit insulting, and it's a point that I have had many arguments about with people who live/work in the major cities.

In the US, I think it's clear that 'middle America' genuinely means just that. Low numbers of immigrants, real 'backwater' towns and cities out in the sticks. Their exposure to immigration likely is very limited - and Trump knew that, acknowledged it, and made sure he hammered home the point.

That won him the election.
 
Feel free to elaborate.
I think my post says it all. Hillary is a disgrace and got what she and her gerrymandering mates deserved. I feel for Bernie.
What more do you need explaining? Not worthy of the honour of first female President as someone classy and ethical like Michelle Obama would be.
Please let me enjoy the day mate. I am not here to argue with those that will be having a collective head explosion in here.
 
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