Did we ever put Moyes under Pressure

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Define a good season?

Was finishing 7th in his first season good - yes 59 points
17th the next season - no 39 points
4th the next season - yes 61 points
11th the next - no 50 points
6th - yes 58 points
5th - yes 65 points
5th - yes 63 points
8th - 61 points
7th - 54 points
7th - 56 points
6th - 63 points

They are stats - the quality and style of football was hoof ball at its best imo!
 
Just how often did it go wrong for Moyes here tho?

Every time we subsided at Anfield - (i.e half the time, he got away with most of the draws) - we laid into him then.

Losing at Arsenal, Chelsea and United - barely ever had any grief.

Losing at Dinamo (5-1) - definitely deserved a rollicking for the start of 05-06 and his management style but we went easy on him.. ditto Benfica cos again he had the "half a side out" excuse ready. Somehow he got away with all the flak when we lost 4-0 at West Brom, Villa, at home to Bolton and 1-3 v The RS..

Losing to Wigan in the Cup - no he didn't get away with that really - subsiding against The RS at Wembley - there was barely concealed anger at the manner of our defeat but the league position meant he got away with that too.

Losing to Shrewsbury, yeah just about. Finishing 17th (on the back of a terrible finish to 03-04) - yeah he got away with that, pretty much.
Ditto the League Cup defeats to lower league teams...
 
DM did a good job in stabilising the club but if we go on to win a few things in the future then he will be forgotten about. He did a good job but not a great job. Martinez and Laudrup won trophies with much worse squads than this and Moyes never got us to the champs league proper although that was an unlucky draw.

Man U will give him time but if they keep losing matches then eventually something will have to give. Another couple of defeats and I reckon he'll be under massive pressure.
 
Older fans seem to forget in Gordon Lee era in the mid 1970's we had a very similar manager to DM , but he was not very well liked by the fans - yet it was the Latchford Dave Thomas - Mick Lyons era - why ? - Well he failed to win us anything just like DM - who was adored here with only 3 good seasons out of 11! yet the same result = no trophies

Another thing about the Gordon Lee era.

We were involved in close title races two seasons in a row. finishing third the year Forest shocked everyone and third again the following year when the RS won it, but we were still in the thick of it at Easter.

He also guided us to a League Cup Final in his first season (albeit he was only in charge from the semi final onwards) plus we had the infamous Clive Thoms/ Bryan Hamilton incident which denied us an F.A. Cup Final appearance...... and he took us to another F.A. Cup semi final in 1980 where we lost to Hammers in a replay at Leeds (I can still see Big Bob jumping on top of the fence after he had equalised that night :D)

When you think about it, Gordon was fired in 1981 after just one bad season.

As many have said on here before, Moyes got away with massive under achievement at Goodison Park.

He won't get away with it at Old Trafford.

As to why Gordon was unpopular, that's easy.

The first thing he did when he took over was drop Duncan McKenzie and he was on a loser to nothing right away.
 
They are stats - the quality and style of football was hoof ball at its best imo!

In addition it was a flawed design nailed whenever a team went toe to toe it was like sending a team out half doped the debacles and cup failures were us being shthouses rather than putting up a fight.

You can see it in his Utd as well.
 
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