I'm saying in this current financial period spending £25m isn't going to get you world class so if he turns out average you can't really hold the price against him.
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I'm saying in this current financial period spending £25m isn't going to get you world class so if he turns out average you can't really hold the price against him.
He will turn out to be superb next season..
Watch this space.
Watch this space.
evertony
Player Valuation: £50m
Nailed it.
If you couldn't see that, even in what was essentially a friendly with benefits, you may as well go home and take up crochet.
The price is a subjective concept mate, its a big investment for us but less so for say Manchester City. I think its really reasonable to have a level of expectation as fans per fee. Payet cost 10 mill a couple of years ago, Mahrez 2 mill. Kante 1.mill. Arteta and Cahill cost sub 5mill.
There are loads of example, the difference you ask is scouting in recruitment and potnential, less about money and more about value.
Now i think Klassen might grow into the league and be a good player, but i cant say on Thurs showing that we look to have got value.
Take two of our signings Sandro and Klassen, Sandro is a calue signing, Davy has a certain level of expectation he mus fulfil because of is price tag.
The market is what it is though. It's mental.
Sandro had a weird clause which made him far below the market. How we won that race unless he is crap is beyond me TBH. Just being honest if he's the real deal.
Klaassen at his age and ability shown in Europe is about right in this market.
Gylfi has the markup value of being proven in the leauge...plus the actual threat of relegation.
Fees have nuances
Which is exactly my point, they are subjective but carry different levels of expectation. I think its reasonable to have a certain level of expectation for Davy given his fee and i think the judgement will be harsher on him as a result.
So are you saying the young balding lad is overpriced? He's got some pretty impressive ticks of the box on his personal CV.
Im not going to make a concrete judgement on the lad based on Thurs. Was i overly impressed, not really. I was very impressed with Sandro, you could see his quality immediately with Davy i was very disappointed over all with some of his decisions, passing, pass choices, shot choices and finishing. I am happy to give him the chance to adjust and grow into the league.
But my initial impression was one of not seeing a big difference between him and a free transfer Steven Naismith.
Its a moment in time though and its preseason basically, the lad could well turn into a beast, i was just left scratching my head with him and the 25mill fee.
Are you saying that if he cost nothing or just a couple of million then he had a reasonable game or are you just judging a performance by the price tag.
Means Sandro, Davies, Gana can have poor games but it will be OK because they didn't cost much.
Not having a pop but we all need to forget about how much they cost as fees have gone stupid and just judge if they are good enough. IMO he showed more than enough with first touch passing and speed of thought. Could have had a couple of goals also.
You can't really compare Sandro to Klaasesn though can you? He had a low buyout clause. Don't be naive to think we'd have got him for £5m if he didn't have one in his contract lol
I think performance and price tag do come into yes, i think if anyone who says otherwise isnt being truthful. If we are paying 25 mill for a midfielder i assume we are buying someone who is developed, can improve the team bottom line and is ready to impact over a 38 game season not an u21 player. Im not saying Davy wont prove to be any of those things, im just reflecting on the 90 mins i saw the other night and i was left with some concerns, that said i relasie it was one game and the lad is a relative newbie to this level of football.
On the flip side would Niasse be such a poor signing if he cost 500k, fees have to come into a players contribution at some stage, but i take your point they do have a measure of subjectivity as i have said.
I would disagree a bit on his performance, what i saw was he was working in the space between midfield and defense, he was creating triangles and giving and going, at times i thought his passing was poor i thought he played the ball to square to players at times or played into feet when he should have played into space for players to run onto. I thought he recycled the ball a little to often when an offensive pass was on. I thought he was a bit powder puff in the physical challenge. He wont win many headers. I thought he dallied over shots at times as a result was shut down and thought he should have done better with he couple of chances he had. I think people are judging his performance as good based on him wanting to be good as opposed to how he actually performed.
From what i have seen he will be playing as an 8 and half or a nine and half almost like Tim Cahill or Steven Naismith, i think thats the comparison that needs to be in our minds. We need double figures in goals and assists from this lid, i think thats a reasonable expectation for the fee.
Like i say it was a preseason friendly basically and i am not making a concrete judgement on the lad, i just wasnt overly impressed by him to be honest. I sincerely hopes he improves from here.
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I sometimes get confused by your points mate, im not sure what they are. Could we have signed Sandro for 25 mill, of course we could, should we have personally i would have no problem with it.
Why cant we compare it, one deal was better value fiscally then the other. I fail to see a problem with that.
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