2025/26 David Moyes

[blulouie]

Its all very Christmassy in here! Goodwill to all men etc.

Merry Moyesmass.

Bed....Sack....erm , Humbug.

 

[Zatara]

If really doesn’t matter in this case as it is a completely bs argument. No serious West Ham fan argues they are in their current situation due to Moyes’ transfers.

You can try and use an easily debunkable argument to make a point, but it just makes the person advancing the argument look like a clown.

Moyes had one major summer spend where he was given an opportunity it’s to spend a bigger budget. Areola, Paqueta, Emerson, Aguerd and Scamacca were the major signings. They are mixed in terms of success, but each contributed significantly to them winning a European competition.

They also didn’t lose a significant amount in the transfers, it was a reasonable amount taking into account their operating budget and accounting for depreciation.

Ok feel free to pin this on your wall:

David Moyes - Purchased players

Diese Übersicht listet alle Spieler auf, die während aller Amtszeiten des Trainers David Moyes verpflichtet wurden.

www.transfermarkt.com

Not sure you've ever met a "serious West Ham fan", maybe a deluded one.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Ok feel free to pin this on your wall:

David Moyes - Purchased players

Diese Übersicht listet alle Spieler auf, die während aller Amtszeiten des Trainers David Moyes verpflichtet wurden.

www.transfermarkt.com

Not sure you've ever met a "serious West Ham fan", maybe a deluded one.

So what point are you trying to make? Paqueta played the pass to Bowen that won them a trophy. Zouma and Aguerd were in the running for man of the match. Emerson also played well. Benrahma scored a penalty that also was crucial.

And that one big summer spend came after several seasons of low spends, so they had effectively saved up for it.

it was spending fortunes on Fullkrug, Kilman, Guilherme, Mavropanos, Todibo etc that has left them up Poop Creek.

 

[windymiller]

Most people are morons Matty. Think about how dumb the average person is and then factor in that most people are even dumber than that.

Michael Gove level maths, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I have a very good West Ham contact.

Lol.

 

[Efcjake]

If we paid him what Leeds paid him, he'd still be an Everton player. Thats the point, a responsive point to a comment saying we lost him as though it was a big mitigating challenge. We choose to do so, unlike previous windows when we've had to sell players.

Personally, as i said at the time, rather than lose for nothing I'd have paid him the extra wages.

I don't think he would tbh, it's definitely an assumption on your part, who knows what we offered. He still thought he was going to attract a CL club until the end of the window and only settled down for Leeds when it became clear he had been sold a fantasy by his agency.

Its not like he contributed much the last four years he had the opportunity to do so anyway so I'm really not arsed with the revisionism or pretending he'd be that much better than Barry or Beto.

Would it have been wiser to throw the 150k a week at him and save the fee for Barry? Maybe, but that's more of indictment of how bad Barry has been than anything else.

 

[James Patrick]

I think you are right about that Martinez semi final, however you are missing the 2008 semi final in the league cup against Chelsea. We'd just equalised away in the first leg and chelsea had a man sent off, Moyes bottled it and tried to settle it for a draw instead of going for the win. We were missing Cahill in that leg but otherwise pretty much had our strongest team.

Baines was out as well.

 

[Daniel Gardner]

We’ve been battling relegation for years. I use to say mid table was boring, give me a relation race atleast to make it exciting. If we never go through one again it will be too soon. Yeah, I cared about every game, but the stress was far too much.
Moyes gets us away from that somehow, does with everyone *99/100 times Sunderland go down.
Keep him till we have a squad that defo, defo, defo can’t go down. Squad at moment defo could with few bad injuries and ppl underperforming.

 

[davek]

"Keep Moyes or we'll be relegated".

<looks at history books....Everton last relegated 1952>

 

[brittcop1]

We’ve been battling relegation for years. I use to say mid table was boring, give me a relation race atleast to make it exciting. If we never go through one again it will be too soon. Yeah, I cared about every game, but the stress was far too much.
Moyes gets us away from that somehow, does with everyone *99/100 times Sunderland go down.
Keep him till we have a squad that defo, defo, defo can’t go down. Squad at moment defo could with few bad injuries and ppl underperforming.

Thats fine...just dont let him make the final decision on transfers- hes not very creative in that department. Likes EPL retreads for their "experience"...Inge, Ward Prowse and Calvin Phillips co.e to mind...

 

[Swartzy]

This season is such a messy one,
If we had got 2 competent FB's and a Goalscoring Striker, I actually believe Europe could have been ours for the taking.

Maybe the bench might have factored against us, With Afcon/injuries. But this is a wide open season..


Don't read this post if you're going to use it as another bat to beat Moyes with..

Look at it more positive that we can say this, without kidding ourselves..

 

[James Patrick]

I think you are right about that Martinez semi final, however you are missing the 2008 semi final in the league cup against Chelsea. We'd just equalised away in the first leg and chelsea had a man sent off, Moyes bottled it and tried to settle it for a draw instead of going for the win. We were missing Cahill in that leg but otherwise pretty much had our strongest team. Chelsea didn't have Drogba or Lampard for either leg. That was the game that I finally lost it with Moyes. We should have won the first leg and then I'm convinced we would have got through to the final. Sure it would have been a tough game against Arsenal but they had fallen away in the league in the second half of the season so who knows.

Revisionist BS
Why should we have won ? Yes we should never have lost that leg but that wasn't down to Moyes. We were still going going for it in injury time.
Chelsea were ONLY runners up in CL, PL & LC. The Yak disappeared off to AFCON after that 1st leg as well.

 

[derek duvall]

"Keep Moyes or we'll be relegated".

<looks at history books....Everton last relegated 1952>

Moyes totally destroying your hero Dyche a few weeks ago is still really hurting you

 

[balggy]

Something isn't right. That was a very large outlay on players in the summer, and he seems to be discarding some of them.

By all accounts, Omari Hutchinson was an option. However, the club (of which Moyes was part of the decision making) deemed Dibling to have a higher ceiling. But despite spending close to £40 million, he isn't featuring. The consensus out there is that Dibling is a top talent.

My biggest issue is Grealish. Absolutely obvious he was a player Moyes pushed for. At £225,000 per week, are we getting value for money? I really don't think we are. For that kind of money, a club like Everton expects a game changer, with flashes of brilliance. I look at that pass by James at Anfield. We haven't seen that lately. Rather than going for a "premium loan", you can't but help feel the money would have been better spent on two positions. But at least he is only hear for 12 months, so if Moyes leaves, Grealish follows.

His problem is that, from a club perspective, if he isn't getting the best out of the summer signings, it is cheaper to get rid of him (with 1 year left on his contract), and bring in a manger who will get the best out of them. He can't get away with sitting Dibling on the bench for a season and not developing him. As a club, we can't afford to do that with a £40 million young signing. If he had European football to show for it, maybe he has a bit of an argument. But not for midtable.

 

[Bedfordblue]

If we paid him what Leeds paid him, he'd still be an Everton player. Thats the point, a responsive point to a comment saying we lost him as though it was a big mitigating challenge. We choose to do so, unlike previous windows when we've had to sell players.

Personally, as i said at the time, rather than lose for nothing I'd have paid him the extra wages.

I’m not even convinced he’s earning more at Leeds that he was with us.
Whether he simply wanted out, was badly advised, we low balled him due to form, or whatever, we’ll likely never know, but not even sure it was about the money with us in the end.