2025/26 David Moyes

[Kevsleftpeg]

Which one of them is a trophy?

Both. I’ve seen them get presented and they go in the clubs trophy cabinet.

 

[Moomin]

Both. I’ve seen them get presented and they go in the clubs trophy cabinet.

LOL Charity shield is not a major honour. It's a glorified friendly.

I remember the days when our motto meant something to us.

If you have any Everton apparel can you replace the motto to

"Locus medius mihi satis est."

 

[Marcus Kendall]

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This is the thing really. 'Taking time' after 40 years of being a quite awful football club is so frustrating, especially since the Moshiri spending spree years, having seen clubs like Nottingham Forest qualify for Europe despite having been out of the Premier League 20-odd years, and Aston Villa, who were every bit as bad as us when we had Gerrard and Lampard respectively, Champions League regulars and now Premier League contenders with an excellent manager. Everton being the team still in transition, still coming nowhere near close to any domestic cups despite teams like Palace, Leicester, Newcastle, Wigan having won cups over the past 10 or so years... little old Everton not being capable of enjoying even this minor success - frustrating.

It is frustrating of course but would you rather have a 1 off cup success or to be more stable and having a better base to build from for a chance of more sustained success going forward?

 

[Ferguson1878]

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It is frustrating of course but would you rather have a 1 off cup success or to be more stable and having a better base to build from for a chance of more sustained success going forward?

It doesn’t have to be one or the other though mate does it , palace for example

 

[blueboy72]

But Villa didn’t go immediately from Gerrard to being good did they and they spent a ton of money. We have had one window under the new owners. Jeez.

Emery got them to 7th and Europe in half a season, having been bottom 6 under Gerrard

 

[davek]

You did say that if we sacked Dyche we would be a cert to be relegated though.

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What...your smoking gun is me saying if we didn't have a relegation specialist here we'd be relegated...and then we actually did replace one with another one?

 

[Nymzee]

What...your smoking gun is me saying if we didn't have a relegation specialist here we'd be relegated...and then we actually did replace one with another one?

You think Moyes is categorised as "relegation specialist"?

Interesting new angle.

 

[davek]

You think Moyes is categorised as "relegation specialist"?

Interesting new angle.

You obviously weren't around for our first two seasons under him.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I don't think he would tbh, it's definitely an assumption on your part, who knows what we offered. He still thought he was going to attract a CL club until the end of the window and only settled down for Leeds when it became clear he had been sold a fantasy by his agency.

Its not like he contributed much the last four years he had the opportunity to do so anyway so I'm really not arsed with the revisionism or pretending he'd be that much better than Barry or Beto.

Would it have been wiser to throw the 150k a week at him and save the fee for Barry? Maybe, but that's more of indictment of how bad Barry has been than anything else.

I’m not even convinced he’s earning more at Leeds that he was with us.
Whether he simply wanted out, was badly advised, we low balled him due to form, or whatever, we’ll likely never know, but not even sure it was about the money with us in the end.

Nah, we simply wouldn't meet his demands.

Right up until March he was talking up wanting to stay [here, "who wouldn't want to be part of that?"] - the most credible reports on the club confirmed we wouldn't meet it. If we paid it, he'd still be an Everton player.

He was always going to get a good wage as a free agent.

We made a choice, one the vast majority of Everton fans agreed with. To start saying now that Moyes lost Calvert-Lewin/didn't have a choice isn't correct IMO.

Still early days, in time it could be shown that signing Barry was the better choice.

 

[DualityNSNO]

You obviously weren't around for our first two seasons under him.

I was - 7th, 17th, then something other managers, especially Martinez, could only dream of - top 4.

Relegation specialist though.

 

[Nymzee]

You obviously weren't around for our first two seasons under him.

When we finished *checks notes* 15th and 7th with PPG higher than Dyche has ever maanged in a PL season?

Interesting.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Nah, we simply wouldn't meet his demands.

Right up until March he was talking up wanting to stay [here, "who wouldn't want to be part of that?"] - the most credible reports on the club confirmed we wouldn't meet it. If we paid it, he'd still be an Everton player.

He was always going to get a good wage as a free agent.

We made a choice, one the vast majority of Everton fans agreed with. To start saying now that Moyes lost Calvert-Lewin/didn't have a choice isn't correct IMO.

Still early days, in time it could be shown that signing Barry was the better choice.

Having a quick look (I know its hard to get accurate info with this stuff) the estimate seems to be that his Leeds wages are somewhere between 80-100k per week.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Having a quick look (I know its hard to get accurate info with this stuff) the estimate seems to be that his Leeds wages are somewhere between £80-100k per week.

He'll undoubtedly be earning more from his time there including fees as a free agent, than Everton would have paid.

All the main credible outlets at the time were reporting Everton wouldn't engage/meet demands - DCL himself kept changing his rep.

 

[b-rad]

You obviously weren't around for our first two seasons under him.

In his first full season we finished 7th. That's a relegation battle?
The next season we finished 17th, but a run of 4 straight defeats at the end of the season still saw us finish 6 points above 18th place.

 

[Nymzee]

He'll undoubtedly be earning more from his time there including fees as a free agent, than Everton would have paid.

All the main credible outlets at the time were reporting Everton wouldn't engage/meet demands - DCL himself kept changing his rep.

Off-topic. Reporting you to @GrandOldTeam