2025/26 David Moyes

Yeah, but generally, the losses have been against teams that we notoriously struggle against. I want us to have better records in these games and go into them believing we can win, but there’s still that element of we are effectively a mid table club with a mismatched and small squad.

Away from home - Liverpool, city, chelsea, leeds

United At home - spurs, arsenal, Newcastle.

The 2 really disappointing ones for me are Leeds and Newcastle. Due to the manner of the performances.

Jep, Everton hasn't been a top side for 40 years, it's hard for those that watched the great Kendall times. There has been Villa or Newcastle that shifted very quickly in recent years, there is Sunderland doing a great job (will see whether they can do it multiple seasons). But overall, we are mid-table team and playing like it.

Moyes won 59 points in his first 38 games, which is a good output, and might you get top half or even Europe. Not everything is perfect (good performances, dull performances, questionable management, line up etc), but it's going into the right direction, which we all should agree.

We are surely much further than 1-2 years ago, doesn't mean we are there where this club historically belongs. I doubt that he would make us a CL fighting club, but I am 100% in 10 years looking back, at least I hope so, we can say he laid the basics for a great future.
 

Well done Davey,out-masterclassed the master class merchant.

Hope he keeps the faith with some of the fringe players when we get everyone back, as they need to play, he can’t just revert to his favourites.

I am enjoying watching Everton teams without Keane or Gueye waiting to throw a suicide moment in. It was good to see everyone in the midfield being comfortable in possession and having the engines to get round the pitch.

If we can build a team around Pickford OBrien Branthwaite Garner Iroegbunam KDH Ndiaye Dibling Barry there’s a lot to work with there.
 
I am enjoying watching Everton teams without Keane or Gueye waiting to throw a suicide moment in. It was good to see everyone in the midfield being comfortable in possession and having the engines to get round the pitch.

If we can build a team around Pickford OBrien Branthwaite Garner Iroegbunam KDH Ndiaye Dibling Barry there’s a lot to work with there.
I've been saying it all season: we do not need Gueye as anything other than an experienced substitute - and we don't need Keane except in an injury crisis. Keane has done his best this season - but forces the team to play far too deeply.
 
I've been saying it all season: we do not need Gueye as anything other than an experienced substitute - and we don't need Keane except in an injury crisis. Keane has done his best this season - but forces the team to play far too deeply.

They’re both one paced error prone players who won’t get any better at their age. They also have the infuriating ability of making everyone around them look poor and then they put in an average effort and people rave about them. We’ll concede 3 and people say Keane had a good game whereas we didn’t look in any trouble last night and every member of the defence looked solid.

They’re not the future of the team so we should be allowing those who are to play seeing as we haven’t got the threat of relegation. Allow O’Brien Iroegbunam Armstrong and Alcaraz to make errors and Elaine Ron then rather than Keane and Gueye trundling around the pitch for another season.
 
Jep, Everton hasn't been a top side for 40 years, it's hard for those that watched the great Kendall times. There has been Villa or Newcastle that shifted very quickly in recent years, there is Sunderland doing a great job (will see whether they can do it multiple seasons). But overall, we are mid-table team and playing like it.

Moyes won 59 points in his first 38 games, which is a good output, and might you get top half or even Europe. Not everything is perfect (good performances, dull performances, questionable management, line up etc), but it's going into the right direction, which we all should agree.

We are surely much further than 1-2 years ago, doesn't mean we are there where this club historically belongs. I doubt that he would make us a CL fighting club, but I am 100% in 10 years looking back, at least I hope so, we can say he laid the basics for a great future.
peter johnson bought in and mortgaged the future season ticket sales away to the bank at sky high fee's. get the wrong shyster involved and we can go back to that easily, the banks will always be happy to leverage a business, so the only difference is a bigger number of seats at the ground.
 

Jep, Everton hasn't been a top side for 40 years, it's hard for those that watched the great Kendall times. There has been Villa or Newcastle that shifted very quickly in recent years, there is Sunderland doing a great job (will see whether they can do it multiple seasons). But overall, we are mid-table team and playing like it.

Moyes won 59 points in his first 38 games, which is a good output, and might you get top half or even Europe. Not everything is perfect (good performances, dull performances, questionable management, line up etc), but it's going into the right direction, which we all should agree.

We are surely much further than 1-2 years ago, doesn't mean we are there where this club historically belongs. I doubt that he would make us a CL fighting club, but I am 100% in 10 years looking back, at least I hope so, I laid the basics for a great future.
Exactly. Where we historically belong. 40 years is a long time and, a bit like in economics with the concept of hysteresis, if your new level remains as low as ours has for 35 years, there is a danger of permanence about it.

If you believe, like I do, that this club has the genetic capability of winning a Premier League, then you want and expect to see us compete at the top. We haven't done that for over 35 years. But we regularly did before that Kenwright interregnum. People MUST believe that the last 35 years was the aberration - not the previous 100. So, this season is us resetting and finding stability. Clearly, it is a huge improvement on the last four years. But this season's level won't and can't be acceptable in another two years. We must find our way back to the top - that has to be the aim.

If the "top" can only mean winning the odd League Cup or FA Cup, fine. Football finance means winning the title is almost out of reach - almost. But winning pots whilst establishing ourselves as serious propositions for the moneyed clubs (who we should soon be rejoining to some extent) MUST be the expectation. If we're eighth or ninth and regular fourth round cup exiters in two seasons time, we're stuck in limbo. This season is soothing relief from financial and institutional meltdown, but that is not the default state for this club. This club MUST emulate the recent success of Newcastle and Aston Villa and Crystal Palace. This is not setting the bar too high. None of those clubs are historically or genetically bigger than us.
 
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I've been saying it all season: we do not need Gueye as anything other than an experienced substitute - and we don't need Keane except in an injury crisis. Keane has done his best this season - but forces the team to play far too deeply.
When Keane and Gueye are available to be picked they will be.

Moyes will never bench senior players.

That's because he plays the long game of personal security.

He will always play players who will keep the dressing room for him.

To expect him to go with O'Brien at CB and A.N.Other with Gueye in MF is not to read the room.
 
Lost track of the date and had forgotten we were playing Forest. So when the after game presser popped up on YouTube and I saw Moyse take his seat with a face like a smacked arse I feared the worst. His second stint here seems to be taking its toll on him.
 
When Keane and Gueye are available to be picked they will be.

Moyes will never bench senior players.

That's because he plays the long game of personal security.

He will always play players who will keep the dressing room for him.

To expect him to go with O'Brien at CB and A.N.Other with Gueye in MF is not to read the room.
Oh, I fully expect him to revert to his favourites when he can. This is his default reflex. He'll play KDH out of position too. It's why, as much as he gets credit for that win last night, he's an infuriating manager who some of us will never fully believe in.
 
Oh, I fully expect him to revert to his favourites when he can. This is his default reflex. He'll play KDH out of position too. It's why, as much as he gets credit for that win last night, he's an infuriating manager who some of us will never fully believe in.
His every move is designed to show who is on charge.

It's been that way since 2002.

When Keane is fit again he slots right in at CB and O'Brien goes back to RB.
 

Remember when Drenthe had a session just before the big match against LFC and was dropped. The result was a forward line without any threat.Why then was Jack the Lad allowed back in the fold after a bigger bender in public?

JGL .webp

 
Mate, check out what Moyes had been telling the media for the last week and a half about expectation levels over Christmas given "we dont have the squad depth", "we're short of numbers".

I wasn't saying that, he was.

He did what he ALWAYS does with Everton: manages expectations - even after he had a huge investment in the squad in the summer.

Moyes acts for Moyes. Never forget that.

We all know what he did when he left here for United. He took the piss out ion this club. It's always him selling Moyes. And any player or club that gets in the way will be thrown under the bus.

Ilm counting the days until this Judas leaves the club. Again.
It's very easy David.

All you have to say is "Well done".
 
Some people were so excited to start planning his replacement next summer...

Shame on them.

We shouldn't be hearing about glass ceilings this week. 4 points off a champions league spot ...

Moyes always does best with limited options & low expectation (managed by him). Credit to him to still achieve that.

The problem has always been when he has options coupled with expectations.
 

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