2025/26 David Moyes

was it that good? honestly cant remember.
It's not like it's full of superstars now. Just well coached.

If you compare our squad with theirs, I think there's about 3 of our players who could push to get in their starting XI - even then I think I'm being generous. As much as they aren't superstars, they are massively ahead of us.
 
If Glasner or Iraola were not available this summer having seemingly satisfied the PL experience tag, then I’d be a lot more indifferent (but still wanting change) to Moyes staying, but it just feels like we are intentionally missing a massive opportunity.

This means there is no one above Moyes in the footballing pecking order who can make footballing decisions because the board are clueless (something a DoF structure would fix) and of course means the level of ambition is questionable.
 
Everton
Mikel Arteta (22) — Signed from Real Sociedad (initially on loan before being made permanent).
Marouane Fellaini (20) — Signed from Standard Liège.
Seamus Coleman (20) — Bought from Sligo Rovers.
John Stones (18) — Signed from Barnsley.
Leighton Baines (22) — Signed from Wigan Athletic.
Joleon Lescott (23) — Signed from Wolves.
Dan Gosling (17) — Signed from Plymouth Argyle.

West Ham United
Mohammed Kudus (23) — Signed from Ajax in 2023.
Jarrod Bowen (23) — Plucked from Hull City in January 2020.
Gianluca Scamacca (23) — Signed from Sassuolo in 2022.
Flynn Downes (23) — Signed from Swansea City in 2022.

Across his long managerial career, the average age of a David Moyes signing sits right at 26.1 years old.
 
People keep trying to shove all these stats, figures, and spreadsheets down our throats—wages, transfer fees, and every other metric under the sun—just to compare us with other teams.

They’re desperate to prove that Everton is exactly where we belong, or that we're somehow 'overachieving.'

It’s all just an excuse to back their favourite manager, or to mask their own relegation PTSD because they're too terrified of the club actually taking a gamble and showing some ambition.

Since when did football become about graphs on a laptop screen?
It’s as mind-numbing as those virgins arguing over who's better based purely on G/A (goals and assists)—even when they're talking about bloody centre-backs!

All these clueless stats used to judge whether a player had a good game or not are a joke. Take Tarkowski, for example. His numbers always look brilliant on paper, but half the time it completely contradicts what you're actually watching with your own eyes on matchday.

That’s because these stats only measure what happens on the ball, but football is so much bigger than that. Look at heatmaps showing how much grass a player covered and where. Running your socks off doesn’t automatically mean you’ve played well—you could just be running around like a headless chicken, driving your teammates mad.

Sometimes I genuinely wonder if these spreadsheet merchants even know how to watch a proper game of football. They've got nothing real to say, so they just hide behind data. Maybe that's a bit harsh, but bloody hell.

If football could be decided on a piece of paper or just by looking at a team sheet, what's the point of playing the match? Why do we bother turning up week in, week out? Why do we even bother getting our hopes up if the numbers have already decided the result before a ball is even kicked?
 
People keep trying to shove all these stats, figures, and spreadsheets down our throats—wages, transfer fees, and every other metric under the sun—just to compare us with other teams.
Not really. It’s just so that the criticisms are fair and not just stuff that is untrue yet gets endlessly repeated to the extent it gets taken as truth.
 
We wasn't 3 years ago, guess what changed?

Villa went and got a proper manager not a firefighter, they will be lifting a trophy in a few minutes and playing CL football.

While our fans are clapping Moyes like 'kin seal, embarrassing.

Villa ending a 30 year trophy drought, but they've got close a lot more. Lost a few cup finals and many semi finals. Were in CL quarters last season.

With Moyes managing for much of it we've only even got to one final and the odd semi. Even Millwall have managed that.

With that in mind - and no Europe this year again - throwing the Wolves game in the League Cup was not good enough.
 
Villa ending a 30 year trophy drought, but they've got close a lot more. Lost a few cup finals and many semi finals. Were in CL quarters last season.

With Moyes managing for much of it we've only even got to one final and the odd semi. Even Millwall have managed that.

With that in mind - and no Europe this year again - throwing the Wolves game in the League Cup was not good enough.
Moyes ended a similar trophy drought at West Ham. He even set a record for most games undefeated in Europe for an English club.
 

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