2025/26 David Moyes

Everyone from that squad: Moyes was gash, tried to change the mentality to being cowards full time

Diehard Moyes FC fans: nah it was everyone else who was wrong, the club itself included, and Moyes was right!!!
Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle? Their drop off was remarkable and suggests there was more to it than simply the changing of the coaches. The Glazers were happy to sponge money from the team and didn’t invest in upkeep. It actually ended up costing them far more money in the long term.
 
It was a miracle borne of RVP going through a season uninjured, a never to be repeated phenomenon. Ferdinand and Vidic were the rock that team was built on and they were past it. Scholes retired again, Giggs was hardly available. It was a period of massive transition. Moyes could have done better, but it’s obvious in retrospect that Man Utd were basically in need of a full rebuild.
2009/10 - 85 Points 2nd (1 point behind Chelsea)
2010/11 - 80 Points 1st
2011/12 - 89 Points 2nd (same points as City)
2012/13 - 89 Points 1st
2013/14 - 64 Points 7th

Also, across both windows they had the highest net spend in the league. £65m on Fellaini and Mata.

They might have been on the slide as you say but thats some catastrophic drop off in one season.
 
2009/10 - 85 Points 2nd (1 point behind Chelsea)
2010/11 - 80 Points 1st
2011/12 - 89 Points 2nd (same points as City)
2012/13 - 89 Points 1st
2013/14 - 64 Points 7th

Also, across both windows they had the highest net spend in the league. £65m on Fellaini and Mata.
They replaced Paul Scholes with Fellaini. They signed Mata in the January in a move of desperation and he didn’t even fit into the team.

Make no bones about it, their squad fell off a cliff and they had a simply awful summer window. Moyes had lined up Toni Kroos for the summer. Whether that would have been enough to make up for their inadequacies is an open question. They certainly were nowhere near challenging Man City regardless.
 
I remember Rio Ferdinand saying something about the players were laughing at him because of some team talk or tactics

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Absolutely fantastic manager, would've still been at utd now if given the time.....

He genuinely thought he could walk into a post-Ferguson United and run it the same way he did Everton, he's so antiquated in his ways and will never change, anyone backing him is just prolonging the inevitable.
 
Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle? Their drop off was remarkable and suggests there was more to it than simply the changing of the coaches. The Glazers were happy to sponge money from the team and didn’t invest in upkeep. It actually ended up costing them far more money in the long term.
Yeah, it is in the middle - Moyes was crap there, they had a rebuild to do (with more or less infinite pull), he didn't address it - he immediately went for Baines and Fellaini. His plan was to cross the ball in the box at every opportunity, remember them having a very Everton game against Fulham with 80+ crosses and still snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, in classic Moyes fashion.
 
IMO should be gone and his replacement lined up by the end of the month

Spurs couldn't have wished for a nicer fixture to stay up, they'll be 2 up within the first 20 minutes

Moyes will say we're just not ready to compete with a team like Spurs just yet, throw some players under the bus and then go chasing around some 30+ year olds on massive wages and players that don't really want to join us for the rest of the Summer
 
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Absolutely fantastic manager, would've still been at utd now if given the time.....

He genuinely thought he could walk into a post-Ferguson United and run it the same way he did Everton, he's so antiquated in his ways and will never change, anyone backing him is just prolonging the inevitable.
I am very much fed up of Moyes but Ferdinand has confirmed this didn't happen
 
They replaced Paul Scholes with Fellaini. They signed Mata in the January in a move of desperation and he didn’t even fit into the team.

Make no bones about it, their squad fell off a cliff and they had a simply awful summer window. Moyes had lined up Toni Kroos for the summer. Whether that would have been enough to make up for their inadequacies is an open question. They certainly were nowhere near challenging Man City regardless.
How many people have you working for you with all these posts David ?
 

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