2025/26 David Moyes

[Lapeno77]

 

[tommytowne]

Lets keep him and do it all again next season, early cup exits, bricking it v top 6, finish mid table....cant wait.

Mid table. We'll be lucky with that team that played yesterday.
We're going to be even worse next season and the supporters know it if the chatter around us is anything to go by.

 

[Ruairi77]

I think part of my anger is his "what do you expect?" schtick.
All well and good when kenwright couldnt get him any money to spend but you cant play that card when you have 60million of new players sitting on the bench and a 10mil fullback who cant even make the squad.
McNeill sums the whole mess up for me. He was happy to sell him but when that fell through he played him ahead of 3 players he signed and one he called back from loan.
If he wanted to play McNeill so much why did he agree to sell him?
Makes no sense.

 

[Toffeepot]

I think part of my anger is his "what do you expect?" schtick.
All well and good when kenwright couldnt get him any money to spend but you cant play that card when you have 60million of new players sitting on the bench and a 10mil fullback who cant even make the squad.
McNeill sums the whole mess up for me. He was happy to sell him but when that fell through he played him ahead of 3 players he signed and one he called back from loan.
If he wanted to play McNeill so much why did he agree to sell him?
Makes no sense.

In his defence the 'what do you expect?' answer was definitely more about how he was feeling.
That's where my defence of him begins and ends

 

[Frenk]

Moyes is a coaster. It's the reason he hasn't ever made it to the top of the game despite his many positive attitributes. Someone who is happy just to scrape by. Don't expect anything because I'm not going to deliver it. It's why he United binned him off so quickly. It's why West Ham decided to part with him. It's why we don't want him anymore now. He has no edge, the thing that all the very best in any industry have. That obsession with rooting out weakness and driving things upwards.

He instilled that exact culture last time and he's brought it back with him. And people won't have it, not now with that new stadium. The days of being Kenwright's train set in a decrepid old ground in L4 over. Anyone who doesn't want to be the best shouldn't be welcome.

Kinnear's comments were very concerning. They read as buzz words from someone trying to sound ambitious rather than a clear-eyed executive who knows exactly what he wants and how he's going to deliver it. Either he goes or the manager does after this season, possibly both. The numbers are absolutely not acceptable and there needs to be serious consequences otherwise nothing at the club has changed.

Wish he was a roller coaster.

 

[windymiller]

i believe moyes is one of the highest paid managers in the league, around 7th

that's like paying to go to a michelin restaurant and getting served mcdonald's

Which makes him one of the highest paid managers in world football. Despite all of that money, however, there are still some who will have you believe that we couldn't attract even a semi-competent manager to replace him.

 

[Rita_Poon]

but had got there by bringing through some young players while phasing out the old,

Fairly sure Tim Iroegbunam and Rohl started again on Sunday.

 

[preposterousvelios]

Ah I've just been posting this in player threads and see you've beaten me to the punch.

Think most of us knew this anyway, but the assertions I've been seeing recently that - Ndiaye is actually just a bang average player and suddenly we don't actually have any good players and Moyes has done really well with a shocking squad - look extremely silly in the context of the above information.

 

[windymiller]

<clears throat> THATS PEANUTS!

Ha ha. The same people who bark that every time are the same ones who state we can't compete with, checks notes, Bournemouth(!) because of how much money they have spent. They have averaged a £24m net spend a year over a five year period. Which apparently isn't peanuts. Weird, huh?

 

[windymiller]

"Everton have not had the opportunity to get in the top end of the league table for a while. I'm more disappointed that they have missed that opportunity to keep pushing on. Today showed that we are probably not quite ready." David Moyes.

Gaslighting again!

No you are not fit for the job.

Trying to polish his teeny weeny bit of progress from Dyche! (1 point so far) Wow.

There is one reason why all of Sunderland Bournemouth Brighton Brentford are above us, they have able managers, not the squad but the managers they have.

"They have missed that opportunity". They. Not us. I can't stand that ginger ferret.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We've played so few games, so I'm not buying the tiredness argument. Of course some players will get fatigued but there's no excuse for it to be any worse than other teams given our favourable schedule.

I think it all comes back to mentality at the end of games. We have players who clearly lack belief and aren't used to winning. We have a manager who likes to protect the draw late in tight games and is instinctively cautious. And we have leadership off the field who don't hold anyone at the club to account.

We don't want to win as much as other clubs.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I was tired by the end of Dyche because of his gaslighting behaviour and I've got the same tiredness now with Moyes. Unfortunately he has the mentality of a loser and that will never change, despite him projecting at times that he wants to raise the standards of the club to go for it, he's happy to revert into his shell when he fails at that and try to shift the blame elsewhere.

It was pushing for a winner at 1-1 yesterday that got us caught out repeatedly and we eventually were sunk.

Made a point about a Brentford midfielder that had Sunderland decision making been better it'd have been an easy 1-6 rout.

 

[Toffeepot]

"They have missed that opportunity". They. Not us. I can't stand that ginger ferret.

He managed to blend one of Koemans worst qualities(Everton, not we) with one of Dyche's worst with the 'before I got here' waffle

 

[ToffeeTim]

It was pushing for a winner at 1-1 yesterday that got us caught out repeatedly and we eventually were sunk.

Made a point about a Brentford midfielder that had Sunderland decision making been better it'd have been an easy 1-6 rout.

Honestly it was giving the ball away constantly that cost us. Every chance Sunderland had came from our own lack of ability and / or ideas while in possession

 

[windymiller]

Look, does he play good football? No. Does he develop young players? No. But when it really, really matters, does he get you results? Also no.

Very good. Got a funny look from the people in my office when I literally lol'd at this. It's funny 'cos it's true!