2025/26 David Moyes

[58 toffees]

I'm on my dinner break

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I'm just about to turn over

 

[navidson]

Sometimes age has its benefits: I've seen my football club lift 2 titles, 2 FA Cups and a European trophy...and a few Charity Shields...and get to a load of cup finals.

If I was a young supporter in my 20s or 30s I'd be walking round punching holes in walls today.

I have no idea what level of torment these lads and girls put themselves through. I'm not 100% sure I'd have stayed the distance tbh. I salute them for their fortitude.

Moyes would be my mortal enemy under those circumstances. I dislike him even having experienced all that success.

Christ - they're supporting a football team, not being sent to the trenches

 

[ToffeeTim]

Play Pickford and we don't lose that game. The other changes are irrelevant to me that is my point.

Not sure how leaving out all our best outfield players is irrelevant

Even with Jordan, we still need to score a goal.

 

[Rita_Poon]

No. Go back and read the post.

I read it just fine. Ta.

 

[willo30]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but maybe starting with your strongest 11 is the way to go, get a lead and then change things.
In any case there were too many changes at once I think.

Maybe we did. The players only played Saturday so not much of a turnaround.

 

[willo30]

Not sure how leaving out all our best outfield players is irrelevant

Even with Jordan, we still need to score a goal.

Ah... and that is the issue. We have only scored once since we last played Wolves.

The issue is not playing our better players it is not having good enough players in our striking department.

 

[Seathestars]

Maybe we did. The players only played Saturday so not much of a turnaround.

Yeah, by the way I love Moyes and I wanted him back.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't with these cup games.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Does he have a point though mate. I mean can you win a trophy and compete on other fronts if you dont have a level squad of 25.

We aren't spending £30 mill (conservatively) on 25 players - so we have to develop Dibilng Charly, Barry Azouu, Rohl etc - we can accept they aren't the finished product - we can accept we need to develop yung players - why do we think that means we should win a trophy this season - that just doesn't make sense to me. To my mind we invested the least of our resources in the summer on right now (Grealish and KDH) and the majority in the future on the player i mentioned above. There is nothing in our investments or actions that says the prioitity is right now - they say in the future.

Sure you can fluke one now, but its more unlikely then not given the context.

I get the feel good, recovery, we're back baby stuff - but it has limits year 1.

4 extra games to the final in February hardly a big ask to take it seriously. Its not as if our playets have played European football club world cups week in week out for several years... Some of best players are not internationals.

 

[SJB]

It's not as if he brought in a load of U21 players. These are all 1st team squad players, the same as the ones playing each league game.
Now are we saying is the squad not good enough, that's a whole other argument but Moyes can only work with what he has been given.

The gulf between our starting 11 and our "scrap for survival" subs is huge, as was apparent last night. He didn't have to experiment en massé, he could have tinkered with the starting lineup then given the subs a decent run out if we were comfortable.

 

[Dddddd]

Would y

Would you expect an open top bus parade through the city with the league cup?

Yeah why not? Cos a Liverpool fan might laugh at you? So what?

 

[blueboy72]

I'd be very surprised if that was true.

100% true from fans in the ground

 

[COYBL25]

Sometimes age has its benefits: I've seen my football club lift 2 titles, 2 FA Cups and a European trophy...and a few Charity Shields...and get to a load of cup finals.

If I was a young supporter in my 20s or 30s I'd be walking round punching holes in walls today.

I have no idea what level of torment these lads and girls put themselves through. I'm not 100% sure I'd have stayed the distance tbh. I salute them for their fortitude.

Moyes would be my mortal enemy under those circumstances. I dislike him even having experienced all that success.

How did you fit watching Everton win all those trophies around your pro footy career ?

 

[Neiler]

But Grealish is here now and being paid an absolute fortune, we should be playing him at every opportunity, he came here to play first team football, not sit on the bench. 5 games it takes to get to a cup final in this competition and with the teams left in we could have had a good run, when we got to the Milk Cup final and FA cup final in 84 I couldn't tell you what league position we finished in but I remember every second of those cup runs and my trips to Wembley

And at some point Grealish was tossed into a league cup game and someone somewhere said he wasn't good enough, 100%. I actually watched him underage for Ireland and he needed a lot of work developmentally, even now there are things he can improve coming into this side. Point being, Jack was once Tyler and Barry.

We will have people in this thread talking about playing our best team - which essentially means playing our most experienced team, in the transfer thread the very same people will loose their minds if we signed someone of a profile over 29 for money.

Its a juxtaposition people on here struggle with depending on the occasion.

As i said this morning, i dont think this project is ready to win a trophy yet - why? Because i dont think we invested in the right now, i think we invested in the future and that is going to take time. Do we have a punchers chance, sure, 95 thought us that, but is it a fair like for like chance with our peers yet .........no.

Yes we should aspire to win trophies, but saying it is just aimless, to do it you need a plan and we are at the start of executing that plan, first few weeks of year 1.

O Malley - fine West of Ireland name mate?

 

[Sadken]

If he gets beat by west ham we will start dropping down the league and the natives will get restless .

 

[willo30]

Yeah why not? Cos a Liverpool fan might laugh at you? So what?

Really? Maybe it's just me but I never thought we had actually fallen that far.